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Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:19
This conversion didn't happen all at one time. Some of it was more because I wanted some of the modifications than that they were needed. I have pictures of most of the conversion and will put them up on this thread.

Up until about 2003 I wore a prosthetic left leg. BK amputation from a bike wreck in 1982. Had problems with infections and could no longer wear the prosthetic leg. I now walk on one leg with crutches. Built this trike up so I could still ride without fighting to keep it balanced every time I stopped. I do get carried away with bike modifications so a lot of what is here was not needed for me to ride without the prosthetic leg.

Might go back and put some comments in with the pictures later if there are questions.

This is the 2001 Sportster the project started off with. It had been dropped, but ran and had no major damage.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01sporty-whenbought.jpg

Trike Axle kit from MC Works ..... now known as Frankenstein Trikes.
This is a cut down and re-splined Ford truck axle with a Dana 30 differential.
You won't break this with a Harley engine, but you can pop some belts with all that rubber in the road.
Don't ask how I know that! Wheelies cost about $200 if you pop it too hard.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle%20005.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle%20008.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle%20009.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle-%20014.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:21
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle-%20028.jpg

The rear brake disk bolts to one side of the differential and your stock Harley rear sprocket bolts to the other side. Differential is already drilled and tapped for the disk and sprocket.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20008.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20010.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20011.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20014.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:24
Staggered drag pipes would not clear the rear trike axle. Replaced them with Bassoni Pro-Street pipes.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20015.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20016.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20020.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-ford-axle2-%20025.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:27
Fenders added later

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/bike-rear-conv-feb09%20003.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/rearfenders09%20010.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:34
Springer added a couple of years later.... originally bulit up with a front wheel off 1998 Sporty. Springer is a Paughco with 6 inch risers and sweeper bars. Used the controls from a 1998 to get everything built up and ready before tearing the front end of the trike off to install the springer.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer-002.jpg

Headlight mount fabbed from 316 stainless angle iron. All the light mounts I looked at were thin and flimsy. Don't like thin and flimsy.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer-2010%20004.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer-800%20%281%29.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:36
The headlight mount blocks that I was getting were crap. The threads would pull out after a couple thousand miles on the springer. Fabbed a new mounting block from layers of stainless steel scrap metal. Put stainless bolts it and never had another problem with it.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer-bracket.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer-cut1.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:39
Internal wiring the bars.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20004.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20005.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20006.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20008.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:40
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20009.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20010.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20012.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:44
Front axle
Paughco wide springer axle with custom cut spacers to fit stock 19 inch Sporty front wheel.
Performance Machine front brakes.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20019.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20020.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20020.jpg

Chopped the mounting tabs down on the stock Sporty front fender and solid mounted it high on the springer legs. It does not pivot. Had to have some kind of front fender to keep the mud and water down riding in the rain.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20023.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:49
New All Balls neck bearings went in when the springer went on

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20025.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20026.jpg



http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20029.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:52
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20032.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20033.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20046.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 21:56
Brackets fabbed to move the seat and the tank back about 3 inches to allow clearance for the springer to turn full lock.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20052.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20105.jpg

Coil and ignition switch were moved under the leg rest pad on the left side of the engine

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:01
Back plate for rear LED lights was cut from an old Mack truck hood. Frame for it fabbed from light angle iron.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20108.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20110.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20fender%20%285%29.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:03
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20final%20fb.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:09
Harley 5 spoke Rocker wheel replaced the stock front wheel later on in the project.
Again custom cut spacers, but this time the spacers were cut from heavy wall stainless steel tubing and polished. New brake disk went on when the Rocker wheel went on. It was over due for a front disk. Replaced pads at the same time.

Threw the chrome Paughco axle nuts in the scrap bolt bucket and replaced them with castle nuts from an industrial supply. Never liked front axle nuts that couldn't be pinned or wired. Had to drill the axle for the pins, but it was pretty easy drilling.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/rocker-wheel%20%281%29.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/rocker-wheel%20%283%29.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/rocker-wheel%20%286%29.jpg

Just FYI that Rocker wheel is made in the land of OZ and the chrome is some of the best I ever saw.

The Rocker wheel will not take the stock Sporty axle bearings. Used larger bearings and some spacers special ordered. Got the part numbers wrote down somewhere if anybody needs them. The bearings and internal spacers are stock Harley parts, but not for the XL.

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:11
Will try to find the pictures of the cross over shifter and get them posted here too.

I have more detailed pictures of the tank and seat brackets.

lugster
26th June 2014, 22:11
Outstanding job Graywolf!

agoristmike
26th June 2014, 22:12
Pretty impressive work!

lugster
26th June 2014, 22:18
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/springer2010%20final%20fb.jpg

Is this the lucky owner of your creation?

Folkie
26th June 2014, 22:29
Wow! Great job, and great write up. http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:32
Is this the lucky owner of your creation?

No, no..... I am the owner. That picture was just when I was trying some nice looking accessories on it.

lugster
26th June 2014, 22:34
No, no..... I am the owner. That picture was just when I was trying some nice looking accessories on it.

Very nice accessories and great job on the trike!

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:40
Wow! Great job, and great write up. http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Dang, it must have been. It got me promoted from grease monkey to Harley Engineer on here.

One of the reasons I wanted to post some of the conversion is a friend just pretty much lost the use of his legs after some chemo and radiation treatments. I am proof that you can still ride after one leg is gone. Got several more on this forum that ride with both legs out of order. It can be done.

I did all the work except the air brush in a small shop behind the house, using mostly just common hand tools and a few power tools.

Also there is thousands of miles of riding between some of the modifications. Got the third engine built up and ready to go on it. Got a couple of old donor bikes so down time is minimal when doing work on it. We ride 365 days a year in Florida so don't get the winter down time to work on the bike like they do up north.

Also this is in the newest edition (312) of American Iron. It was sort of accidental, but kinda proud of it it anyway.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/american-iron.jpg

Graywolf
26th June 2014, 22:42
Very nice accessories and great job on the trike!


Thank you! Got some pictures of the latest engine build and the Barnett clutch that I will add later.

Graywolf
27th June 2014, 00:39
Found the pictures of the cross over shifter job. Since I don't have a left leg I can't easily shift with the stock set up. First tried one of the Pingle electronic shifters on a previous trike build. Didn't like the Pingle because it slammed the gears too hard. It did have a momentary ignition kill relay, but it still shifted really hard. It was almost impossible to find neutral with the Pingle. Usually had to reach down and try to ease it into neutral with my hand.

For the latest trike I fabbed a cross over shifter to use the right toe for shifting. Works a lot better than anything else I have tried. The basic support is nothing but a piece of 3/4 inch black iron pipe with tabs to bolt on where the forward controls would normally go.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20008.jpg

Some levers from scrap metal and a stock rear peg mount on the right side. No foot peg at all on the left side. No left foot, so not much need for a left foot peg.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20010.jpg

Bushings for the cross over rod are chain hook clevis parts that were drilled and reamed to fit the cross over rod.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20013.jpg

Left the levers long when I welded them to the cross over rod and then cut them to fit.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20014.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20017.jpg

Graywolf
27th June 2014, 00:43
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/shifter%20018.jpg

Not sure I got a finished picture, but this is the same type of cross over shifter that I fabbed for the old 1998 Sportster before I put the trike kit on the 2001.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/crossshift1998%20065.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/crossshift1998%20067.jpg

Had several reject and start over type trial and error runs with the cross over shifter. Finally settled on the simplest design possible and it works well. Been riding over 10 years with a cross over shifter. Have considered putting Heim joints in it, but never got around to doing it yet.

Graywolf
27th June 2014, 00:48
Did find a picture of the left side of the cross over shift. This has the linkage that looks like a knife, but it is just a shifter linkage cut from a piece of 316 SS angle iron and polished with a Dremel tool. The linkage from the shaft is an aftermarket foot shift with the peg removed and turned straight up instead of forward.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/knife-shifterlinkage.jpg

Carrying 2 full length crutches in some hooks on the left foot peg bracket. The crutch tips slip into a couple of pieces of old muffler pipe bolted up just under the rear axle in back. Got a leather strap with a military quick clip to hold them securely. They are down low and out of the way.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/pip2012%20021.jpg

It also has a Paughco 4.2 gallon fuel tank now. the 3 gallon tank just don't do on long trips. Been from Florida to Maine and back a number of times and rode the whole Blue Ridge Parkway a couple years ago. The extra fuel is a lot of help when it is a stretch between gas stations.

Graywolf
27th June 2014, 01:10
This is probably the most recent picture I have of it.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01springer-rocker%20007.jpg

It ain't finished....... they ain't never finished!

jharback
27th June 2014, 05:33
Great job! Now all you need is a custom mount for your crutch.

BTW, how does the trike handle with the springer. I've ridden a couple trikes but, never one with a springer front end.

Graywolf
27th June 2014, 05:49
Great job! Now all you need is a custom mount for your crutch.

BTW, how does the trike handle with the springer. I've ridden a couple trikes but, never one with a springer front end.

Got custom mounts for the crutches.

It handles not that much different than it did with the hydraulic front forks. Get a little skip on the front end if you take a turn too fast, but that is true for either front end.

Maybe this should go in the stupidest thing you ever done on a bike thread, but you do a wheelie on a trike and it keeps going in whatever direction it was pointed when the front tire left the pavement. There ain't no steering a trike with the front tire off the ground.

HD_XL rider
30th June 2014, 19:29
Great build man! Really nice - and a real good write up.

Graywolf
30th October 2014, 11:47
Update - just finished a new instrument panel. It is built from scratch using a piece of aluminum plate. Has aftermarket small speedometer, small digital tach, hour meter, neutral light, oil pressure light, and turn signal indicators.

Used LED lighted tag bolts for the indicator lights. Was using the Custom Dynamics lighted tag bolts, but the straight up bolts were discontinued. They only have the lighted tag bolts with the side light now. Found some straight up LED tag bolts that work just as well from Speedway Motors. They have a website online.

Left the front of the aluminum plate long and bent it down to help keep some of the water from being blown straight into the gauges when riding in the rain. Sealed all the gauges and lights up with clear silicone. Hope that helps keep the water out.

I am gonna chop that center bolt off and find a chrome acorn nut for it.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/instument-panel.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/instrument-panel2.jpg

Screw Loose Dan
30th October 2014, 13:43
I like the new panel. Well done. I've always been impressed by all your work on the bike. :clap

Did I ever mention this before? I believe I met you once at a gas stop off of the BRB, it was maybe 4 or 5 years ago (but it all blurs together). Can't be that many gungy amputee bikers that ride a trike that looks like this!!! ;) I took a picture of your trike at the time as I was quite impressed by it, but for the life of me I can't find it now.

sportsterpaul
30th October 2014, 14:11
Just found your thread, not sure how I missed it before, but a damn nice job of evolution, keep at it.

Graywolf
30th October 2014, 15:44
I like the new panel. Well done. I've always been impressed by all your work on the bike. :clap

Did I ever mention this before? I believe I met you once at a gas stop off of the BRB, it was maybe 4 or 5 years ago (but it all blurs together). Can't be that many gungy amputee bikers that ride a trike that looks like this!!! ;) I took a picture of your trike at the time as I was quite impressed by it, but for the life of me I can't find it now.

I copied the picture and saved it, but I can't find it either. I can't find much unless I know the year. My son lives in upstate NY and I have made several rides up there to see him. Went on up to Laconia and on to Maine a couple of years. If I run across the picture I will put it on here. Seems like it was a mall gas station just off the Parkway.

Hold everything....... I found it. It was 2010...... rode the entire BRP and Skyline Drive on the way up to my son's place that year. I talked to you for a few minutes at the gas station.

Here is your picture.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/screwloose-dan-sent-20100701.jpg

Yeah, I tend to look a little grungy without even trying. Probably didn't help much that I had been on the road for 3 or 4 days when I met you.

Screw Loose Dan
30th October 2014, 16:54
That's it!! :clap

2010 - I believe I was on my way back from the XLF meet-up at the Dragon when we met at that gas station.

retread08
30th October 2014, 17:47
Graywolf, don't you know our Frankenstein kits ride too hard for long trips? That's what the IRS owners say.

Graywolf
30th October 2014, 19:27
Graywolf, don't you know our Frankenstein kits ride too hard for long trips? That's what the IRS owners say.

Yeah, I know and the hard mounts shake too much for long trips too. I never go on any trips more than about 6,000 miles up and back. Gonna have to quit doing it. I found out not long ago that you can't tour on a Sportster.

decman
30th October 2014, 19:33
Great job on the conversion. :tour
Did you do anything to decrease the trail on the springer?
I know that trikes steer better with less trail.

Graywolf
30th October 2014, 19:37
Great job on the conversion. :tour
Did you do anything to decrease the trail on the springer?
I know that trikes steer better with less trail.

The springer is stock length, stock rake. Only thing I did was put some wider bars on to help with steering it through the turns.

The newer Frankenstein conversion kits come with a raked tree. That wouldn't have worked with a springer anyway.

Sleeper
30th October 2014, 20:41
Must be nice to be able to fab your own parts.
Nice ride!

Graywolf
30th October 2014, 20:52
Must be nice to be able to fab your own parts.
Nice ride!

It is nice, but I don't have more than a couple of real old welding machines, side grinders, and torch. Just have the basic metal working tools. Don't have any machine tools at all. Takes a lot of time to fab parts without the right tools.

While I am on fabrication here is the passenger peg mounts I fabbed to get the pegs a little higher and keep them above the belt and the crutch holder on the other side.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/pegs%20002.jpg

Wolf
21st November 2014, 04:01
Trike is looking even better than last time I replied with you. Finally refabed ears on soft tail swing arm to fit Sporty. Found a lot of great ideas in your posting. Got a great idea for mounting my fenders from one of your pics. Being a DNA Axle it takes a lot of thinking out of the box to get the same results. Nice, nice work.

Graywolf
21st November 2014, 12:12
Trike is looking even better than last time I replied with you. Finally refabed ears on soft tail swing arm to fit Sporty. Found a lot of great ideas in your posting. Got a great idea for mounting my fenders from one of your pics. Being a DNA Axle it takes a lot of thinking out of the box to get the same results. Nice, nice work.

Thanks, still working on it when I get some time and parts.

If you mean the front fender, I had Paughco put some fender mount holes on the legs of the springer when they fabbed it up. They will do custom builds if you got the time to wait on it. Can't run without a front fender because of the two miles of dirt road to get to a highway from here. Front tire throws wet dirt up in the air and then you ride through it. With the front fender high mounted kinda like a dirt bike it looks almost like there ain't a fender on it from the front. The fender mounting brackets are chopped and re-drilled. Don't remember if I put pictures of that here or not.

Graywolf
21st November 2014, 12:25
Can't find a pic of the fender with the chopped tabs when it ain't mounted. Maybe didn't take any. Chopped enough off the tabs to get the fender up enough it don't hit the tire when the springer flexes. It is solid mounted on the legs. Didn't want all that moving arms and stuff to keep the fender above the tire when the front end dips.

Wolf
21st November 2014, 14:49
9:15 and, it is 65 in the sun. Measured with my raytek. Moved shed opening from north to south side a couple days ago. The door can wait. I am riding.

big andy
22nd November 2014, 04:21
Nice work Graywolf. It is amazing what a lot of patients and basic tools can achieve in skilled hands .Keep up the good work.

brianbbs67
22nd November 2014, 05:45
Nice work Graywolf. It is amazing what a lot of patients and basic tools can achieve in skilled hands .Keep up the good work.

yep, you really put it together.:tour

Scar55
22nd November 2014, 09:40
Good job Greywolf. Lots of good information here. A good friend had his leg removed last Aug. We knew this was coming so he had me look into trike kits when I was at Bike week. The Frankenstein kit was one of the ones I looked at. One vender had a trike he let me ride. Didn't take too long to get used to it. Waiting for my friend to get through rehab and then we will press on with this project. I'm sure I will be picking your brain once we get balls deep into this.

Kelly

Graywolf
22nd November 2014, 11:57
Thanks for the nice comments! Means a lot more coming from people with greasy fingers than it does from the ones that never get their hands dirty.

For Scar and anybody else that is looking at trikes;
Just a little info on riding them....... I rode 2 wheel bikes for 40 years before I had to switch to a trike. The feeling is totally different cornering a trike. There is no lean and you have to steer the front end around the turns with the bars. Wider bars help too. Always liked buckhorns, but they just won't force the front tire very easy. Wider bars give you more leverage. The first few times you turn a trike it feels just like you are going to turn the thing over. You are so used to leaning through the turns the feeling of going through without leaning scares hell out of you. It takes a good bit of riding to get the new feel of turning without leaning.

Trikes will turn over, take it real easy for a few thousand miles before you start looking for the limits in the turns. The front tire will skip over on sandy pavement or slick places in hard turns too. I don't advise this until you got plenty of riding on the new trike, but if you want to run the curves harder and look for the limits you do lean. The trike won't lean, but you need to keep the inside rear tire planted so you move your body weight as far to the inside of the turn as you can. Hang over to the inside like they do on the racing schooners or the side hacks. Don't make any hard, fast corrections in the turn. If the inside tire does leave the pavement you want it to come up slow so you can feel it and back off enough it goes back down. Riding the trike close to the limit can be as challenging as riding two wheels near the limit and just as about as much fun.

One other little piece of info here...... when the front wheel of the trike comes off the ground there ain't no steering it at all! It is nothing like a wheelie on a two wheel bike. A trike doing a wheelie is going to keep on in the direction it was pointed in when the front wheel came up. Don't ask me how I know that!

Also for somebody with a BK amputation or maybe at the knee the leg hanging and flopping around without a foot peg under it is very annoying plus it makes you hurt in the hip joint. I got a pad on the left side to rest what is left of the leg on. It helps with balance and keeps the leg from just hanging.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/pip2012%20021.jpg
The pad is supported by a piece of cold roll that is bolted into the mid peg bracket with the peg removed. It is just a piece of board with some foam and leather over it. At the top the pad support is bolted to the upper motor mount bracket.

The trike dealers and kit suppliers will tell you you have to have a raked tree and a fork damper, but I been riding that one for 10 years or more with stock rake, stock length forks, and no damper. Maybe easier steering with a slight rake and a damper, but I got good arms.

Graywolf
27th November 2014, 03:18
OK, got a few pics of the last engine swap. Had over 100,000 miles on the 1200 top end of the original engine for the 01. I bought Jay's 2001 Sportster which already had a 1200 top end and only had about 35,000 miles on it. Pulled the engine out of Jay's old Sporty and put it in the trike. Trike engine was shot. Had a valve sticking and the bore was way out of round. Jay used to be on this forum before he sold me his Sporty and bought the Victory. There is a lot of nice goodies on his old bike.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/eng-swap-j%284%29.jpg

Got 2 of the 2001s now and still got the old 1998 too. Don't like to have the trike down for long so I pull parts off whatever is still good on the other two bikes in the shop to keep the trike going.

This engine was running good so not much to do to it. Didn't even open it up. Jay had sent the outer case parts off and had them powder coated black. Had some other good aftermarket stuff too.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/eng-swap-j%286%29.jpg

Got a homemade overhead hoist in the shop. It works with a swing arm and a 2 ton chain come-along. Engine coming out of the trike is easy. Don't need to brace it up like pulling the engine out of a 2 wheeler. Just strip the engine and take the motor mounts loose. I took all the tins off to keep from scratching them accidentally. Hook the over head lift to the top motor mount and tilt the engine slightly to the left when you get the weight off of the frame. It will slip right out of the frame without laying the bike on its side. Easier to get the engine out if you take the rear rocker cover off.
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/eng-swap-t%285%29.jpg

Brad
27th November 2014, 03:20
Laying a trike on the side has to be a whole different beast! Good stuff! :clap

Graywolf
27th November 2014, 03:31
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/eng-swap-t%286%29.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/eng-swap-t%287%29.jpg

This is the original engine from the trike. Engine stand is just some scrap metal from the junk pile welded together with some dolly wheel from Tractor Supply to roll around.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/engine%20stand.jpg

Sent the jugs and heads to Cycle Rama in St. Petersburg for 10 over bore to bring the jugs back to round. Got light weight 10 over Keith Black pistons. They did complete valve job and all new springs on the heads. Don't have the equipment here to do that kind of work.

Graywolf
27th November 2014, 03:35
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01engine-a2.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01engine-a3.jpg

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01engine-a4.jpg

It is ready to go back in the trike. I put a lot of miles on the engines from the other 2001 and it is getting a little bit tired now. Got a brand new Mikuni 42 that is going back on the rebuilt engine. The Bassoni Pro Street pipes going back on it too. This engine has a fairly new Barnett Scorpion clutch and replaced both primary sprockets plus new chain not long before the top end gave out.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/clutch%20022.jpg

They don't never die, you just rebuild and keep on riding them!

Screw Loose Dan
27th November 2014, 04:13
They don't never die, you just rebuild and keep on riding them!
:clap :clap :clap

Graywolf
27th November 2014, 04:33
:clap :clap :clap

I'll meet you back up on the BRP someday, but don't look for me too hard. Most of the time I don't even know where I am.... or care.

sportxlh
4th December 2014, 01:59
just found this thread: nice work on the trike!

Wolf
4th December 2014, 18:25
I have about 50,000 on 2008. I went to Barnett Clutch Cable at around 15,000. Scorpion Clutch will be my next Clutch change. Working on adding fenders soon to this DNA Trike. I had to compress my brakes down to Eighth Inch plate then reapply to disc in order to get brake calipers to compress. Works great so far. Changed out the master cylinder first, because of previous use. Thanks for the pictures and details involved with your Trike , Graywolf.

Zroyhobbs
13th April 2015, 19:28
Thanks so much for the detailed write up. Going to a trike conversion soon due to drop foot on both feet and associated weakness from post-op neuropathy. Any real "problems" not running rear fenders? Like the look better. Also, what handlebars would you recommend? I also have buckhorns on all my bikes. Currently have a sidecar rig on a Bonneville America: would the trike drive similar? Thanks & Regards...Hobbs

Wolf
13th April 2015, 19:52
I fixed my brakes by installing speed bleeders that worked great. Two for about 11 dollars at auto zone. I am now in the process after rain stops and BTX-11 clutch plates arrive to eliminate clutch spring giving me problems, along with motion pro clutch cable. Doing a trike, may involve eliminating your center clutch spring also. I am sure Graywolf or others here would know more about that. I have buckhorns with 6 inch extensions, and going from 54 inch cable to the Motion Pro 60 inch that just arrived. Never rode with a sidecar attached.

retread08
13th April 2015, 20:12
I triked my 1200 (Frankenstein, same as Greywolf), stock bars. Ran w/out fenders for a short time,would be a b***h in the rain. Never driven a sidecar rig, but the Frankenstein corners great. Greywolf has mucho more miles than I do.

Graywolf
14th April 2015, 15:48
Thanks so much for the detailed write up. Going to a trike conversion soon due to drop foot on both feet and associated weakness from post-op neuropathy. Any real "problems" not running rear fenders? Like the look better. Also, what handlebars would you recommend? I also have buckhorns on all my bikes. Currently have a sidecar rig on a Bonneville America: would the trike drive similar? Thanks & Regards...Hobbs

No real problem running without rear fenders. If you get in wet dirt or mud it will cover you and the bike in mud that slings up from the tires. If you carry a passenger they might not want to ride without the rear fenders. The tires are real close to passenger. The tires throw rooster tails on wet roads. It is not too bad once you get above 40 MPH. You pretty much stay ahead of the water that rooster tails up at higher speeds.

Buckhorns probably gonna be hard to turn in a trike. Any of the wider bars would work better. I got sweeper bars and they work well.

Sidecar rig steers something like trike. The advantage of the trike is the steering and braking are even. Everything behind the front tire is evenly balance. Sidecar is steering from off center. It is not a lot of difference. It is easier to flip a trike over. There is not as much weight and wheel spacing in the rear on a trike.

Wolf
14th April 2015, 16:05
I had T-Bars on but, it was too much of a reach. Buckhorn is not as comfortable but, six inch riser, and being able to adjust them back was my option as I already had them.

Glamazon
14th April 2015, 20:48
Max respect to you Graywolf for still riding when plenty quit for far less.Nice trike too

Graywolf
18th April 2015, 20:00
Thanks Glamazon!

Wolf, the buckhorns would be fine for short hops, like less than 100 miles. If you try to run the Blueridge Parkway or something with them your arms are gonna get mighty tired. It takes a lot more effort to steer a trike. Wider bars make steering easier.

Wolf
18th April 2015, 20:27
Graywolf that is sure a relief to know. I thought my muscles were giving up from age. I need something like my tbars that I can adjust back some. My tbars as may be all of them bolt directly with no adjustment. I just changed out my clutches to extra plate. My spring plate was bad. Working off of ground with clutch was enough to bother shoulder blade muscles for a while. I get over it, and do it again.
















I should be good for a while after this. How is your new motor coming along ?

Graywolf
19th April 2015, 14:19
Graywolf that is sure a relief to know. I thought my muscles were giving up from age. I need something like my tbars that I can adjust back some. My tbars as may be all of them bolt directly with no adjustment. I just changed out my clutches to extra plate. My spring plate was bad. Working off of ground with clutch was enough to bother shoulder blade muscles for a while. I get over it, and do it again.
















I should be good for a while after this. How is your new motor coming along ?

New engine is built up and ready to go in. Just waiting for the old one to croak or time to to do it. The engine that has been in there for about 4 years is not as strong as it was and has a lot of miles on it, but it is still running pretty good and not smoking or using a lot of oil. Hate taking it out when it is still running pretty good. Ain't had time to do anything that I want to do either. If the old engine croaked I would work at night to get the new engine in and get it going. As long as it is running OK, I would rather sleep at night.

Wolf
19th April 2015, 17:13
I know what you are saying. I will run mine til the end also before rebuilding. I am straightening my shed up to save me a lot of hunting work in the future.

webman94
1st June 2016, 04:59
Dear Graywolf:

Thanks for the detailed writeups; really informative! I've been curious about trikes for a long time, and if I ever need to stop riding on two wheels, your story gives me confidence that I'll still be able to get in the wind on three wheels. Very inspiring, and I love how you can make so many inventive solutions with fairly simple tools. Your write up gives those of us with less experience the confidence to just dig in and try things.

DEEP DIVER
8th February 2017, 21:09
Hi Graywolf. Have just read you topic and it shows that you cant keep a good man down. Some questions as I may have to trike my 1993 1200 soon. What is the max width across the fenders on you axle setup, as I have limited room down the side of my house. On the axle with the single disc brake has it the stopping power as a twin disc axle. Also have you a park brake fitted to the rear axle as I know over here in the UK it's law on a trike to have one.

Graywolf
9th February 2017, 01:22
Hi Graywolf. Have just read you topic and it shows that you cant keep a good man down. Some questions as I may have to trike my 1993 1200 soon. What is the max width across the fenders on you axle setup, as I have limited room down the side of my house. On the axle with the single disc brake has it the stopping power as a twin disc axle. Also have you a park brake fitted to the rear axle as I know over here in the UK it's law on a trike to have one.

The width across the rear tires is about 48 inches. The axle for the Sportster is not as wide as the axles for the big twins. You could use narrow tires or inset wheels, but it might affect the cornering speeds that are possible with the wider tire set up.

I do not have a parking brake on the rear axle, but it would be possible to put one on without too much trouble. A parking brake is not required here. I leave the bike in gear when it is parked.

The stopping power of the single disk brake on the rear is all you could possibly have. It will lock up the two 7 inch wide tires and slide them on dirt or pavement. Any more braking than that would just be over kill. The trike with the wide rear tires will stop better and faster than a single rear tire. It is also easier to maintain control with the rear locked up. A trike will not slide out from under you.

There are many different axle conversions and types available now. The independent suspension is supposed to be a lot smoother and ride better. I built mine way over a decade ago and still ride it. It is not the latest technology, but it still works fine.

Nibelungen
9th February 2017, 04:02
Impressive work
Interesting thread
Nice ride
Strong guy

Congrats... enjoy your warm weather...

Wolf
9th February 2017, 18:27
Hi Graywolf.

So true about the back wheels on the trike. Since last posting have changed to a chain drive. It works great and has needed no adjustment since installed over 3,000 miles ago. I widened my small shed door, and built a concrete ramp to keep it out of the weather. I put Progressive air shocks on the rear, and had to rake them back to work with the modified soft tail trike swingarm. My front shocks were leaking on front end, so I installed Progressive gas shocks, and no longer have the leak or inconsistent compression. I have a seepage on rear cyclinder rocker box, but not enough warrant me breaking it loose to change gasket. Runs better than brand new, and just enjoying the weather here on Ms. gulf coast.

jzink0883
9th February 2017, 19:47
Dear Graywolf:

Thanks for the detailed writeups; really informative! I've been curious about trikes for a long time, and if I ever need to stop riding on two wheels, your story gives me confidence that I'll still be able to get in the wind on three wheels. Very inspiring, and I love how you can make so many inventive solutions with fairly simple tools. Your write up gives those of us with less experience the confidence to just dig in and try things.

Graywolf,

+1 Reps for an inspiring and informative thread. I'm jealous of your fabrication skills.

Nibelungen
27th April 2017, 21:01
Graywolf,

+1 Reps for an inspiring and informative thread. I'm jealous of your fabrication skills.

I agree completely

Graywolf
25th July 2017, 08:25
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trike-axle-01.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trike-axle-04.JPG

At somewhere around 250,000 miles on the Frankenstein rear axle the right side, inboard bearing got loose and moved over. It wore some material off the spacer there. That caused some unwanted movement of the center / differential section of the axle. I contacted Frankenstein Trikes to get some parts. The tech there asked for pictures of the damage and wanted the stamped number off the star plate.

After sending pictures of the damage and the plate numbers the tech informed me that the parts I had was from a very early manufacture. The spacers on some of the earlier ones were made of aluminium. They had since switched to stainless steel spacers. He asked me to box the center section of the axle up and ship it back to them. They will repair the damage and install the stainless steel spacers at no cost to me. That was very good to hear since I thought that I was in for quite a lot of expense.

The center section of the axle is going to the UPS Store for shipment this morning soon as they open. I will also be replacing all the bearings and seals. Found the swing arm to be loose while I had the rear end off the floor. Got a repair kit for the swing arm pivot point ordered and will be installing that.

Got to say that Frankenstein is being very helpful with the problems........ even with all the miles I have put on that axle! Couldn't ask for anything more!

DEEP DIVER
25th July 2017, 10:45
That axle has done you well Graywolf. Looks like it's time for some maintenance work.

Screw Loose Dan
25th July 2017, 11:11
Got to say that Frankenstein is being very helpful with the problems........ even with all the miles I have put on that axle! Couldn't ask for anything more!
Great to hear they are taking care of things. :clap

Graywolf
25th July 2017, 13:17
Yes, I told the tech at Frankenstein that I had no complaints about the axle and that I just wanted to buy the parts to fix it. He said they had started using the stainless spacers and they should have been using them all the time. They really came through with getting it back right. The harder metal with the stainless spacers will also make it a lot easier to get them off every time I have to change the rear pulley too.

cotton1
25th July 2017, 14:49
Being kinda new to the forum, this is the first time I have seen this thread. GW, I really enjoyed this whole thread! So much so I ordered the issue of American Iron that your article is in!

That is awesome to hear that Frankenstein is taking care of you like that! Made your ol check book relax didn't it:laugh

I hope you get your parts, and trike back on the road soon man!

Cotton1

HD_XL rider
25th July 2017, 20:13
Glad to hear that they're going to take care of you man. Were they able to give you any idea of turn around time? Hope they get it back to you soon. But You have time to get that swing arm taken care of anyway.

The Crusher
25th July 2017, 20:16
Yes, I told the tech at Frankenstein that I had no complaints about the axle and that I just wanted to buy the parts to fix it. He said they had started using the stainless spacers and they should have been using them all the time. They really came through with getting it back right. The harder metal with the stainless spacers will also make it a lot easier to get them off every time I have to change the rear pulley too.

That's an outstanding thing to hear, a company admitting an issue and upgrading. Good luck with getting it back and together.

sportytrace
25th July 2017, 20:24
Hope you are back on the road soon!

Graywolf
25th July 2017, 20:38
Glad to hear that they're going to take care of you man. Were they able to give you any idea of turn around time? Hope they get it back to you soon. But You have time to get that swing arm taken care of anyway.

I shipped the center section to them today. It gets there Friday. Shouldn't be more that a couple weeks at most to get it back. I will have the parts to fix the swing arm tomorrow. Hoping it is not down too long.

Frankenstein is an outstanding company to be taking care of this problem.

webman94
25th July 2017, 23:05
I shipped the center section to them today. It gets there Friday. Shouldn't be more that a couple weeks at most to get it back. I will have the parts to fix the swing arm tomorrow. Hoping it is not down too long.

Frankenstein is an outstanding company to be taking care of this problem.

Thanks for the update, Graywolf. I'm really happy to hear Frankenstein is taking care of you. They really sound like a stand up company. While I'm not in the market for a trike kit, I'll definitely keep them in mind for the future.

Graywolf
29th July 2017, 15:02
The old swing arm pivot axle. The axle with the inner races came out pretty easy. There was still plenty of grease on it. I packed it with water proof grease when I put the trike rear end on many years ago. The bearings were not real bad, but everything was loose. I have a brand new complete kit with new bearings, snap ring, axle, and bushings.

The outer races did not want to come out of the bores. In the end I had to split the bearing races with a Dremel rotary cutter until they collapsed. They tapped right out after they were split. Can't get in there to split them at a 90 degree angle, but they can be split at about a 45 degree angle if you are very careful with the Dremel.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/swingarm-pivot01.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/swingarm-pivot02.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/swingarm-pivot03.JPG

Gonna use the Dremel to clean the bores up and polish them a little, then the new parts can go back in. It should be ready to go another 250,000 miles once all the new parts are installed. The machine shop in Pleasanton, Kansas still has the differential. They just got it from UPS Friday. Hoping they will get started on it soon.

Ranchero50
30th July 2017, 04:11
If you run a thin bead of weld around the inside of the outer race it'll shrink and fall out on it's own once it cools. Pretty cool.

Graywolf
30th July 2017, 14:03
If you run a thin bead of weld around the inside of the outer race it'll shrink and fall out on it's own once it cools. Pretty cool.


Yeah, I have done that with plenty the larger bearings and would have done it with this one, but these are very small bearings and all I got left is a big stick welder. I would do it as a last resort, but it is real easy to flash something you don't want to with such a small bearing. Usually pack clay over the surfaces I don't want flashed or splashed, but that don't always keep it all off. Bearing that small I would rather cut them and let them collapse. I was a component mechanic in a machine shop at a large mining operation for about 12 years. Used to do that stuff every day, but on a much larger scale.

Graywolf
5th August 2017, 12:27
The outer races in the swingarm bore;

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trike-axle-swingarm-21.JPG

Left side bore for the bushing that has been cleaned up and polished out.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trike-axle-swingarm22.JPG

Graywolf
5th August 2017, 12:27
Dremel tool with rouge buffing pad;

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/dremel-rougebuffingpad.JPG

Graywolf
5th August 2017, 12:28
The axle wear........... that is a 9 inch Ford Street Strip Axle and all that axle wear was put on it with a Harley Sportster.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-axlewear.JPG

This is the star plates and the inboard axle bearings. All the bearings are being replaced.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/inboard-bearings.JPG

Graywolf
5th August 2017, 12:29
Left side bore with the bushing spacer installed.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-bushingspacer.JPG

Left side bushing on the pivot axle. It will fit the bore spacer once the tapered roller bearings are installed on the other end.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-bushing02.JPG

Graywolf
5th August 2017, 12:31
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-swing0001.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-swing0002.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-swing0003.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-swing0004.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/trikeaxle-swing0005.JPG

The locking screw takes blue Locktite........... Torque is 50 Ft/Lbs


Swing arm is repaired and back on the frame. Still waiting on some parts for the axle repairs.

cotton1
5th August 2017, 14:45
Good to see you are making progress GW! I hope you will be back on the road soon!

cotton1
9th August 2017, 23:44
It's been a few days GW. Any developments?

Cotton1

Graywolf
10th August 2017, 12:59
It's been a few days GW. Any developments?

Cotton1

Still waiting to get my parts back from Frankenstein. Not much I can do until I get the parts.

Graywolf
23rd September 2017, 10:51
Got the axle parts back from Frankenstein Trikes. They did the repairs on the differential and sent the new spacers for it. They sent new bearings and seals for everything and a new axle to replace the right side axle with the severely worn splines. True to their word, they did not charge me for the repairs. I even felt a bit guilty about riding that many miles and wearing the parts out. I called them up and offered to pay for some of it or at least pay the shipping. They said they were covering all the cost of repairs. The very early Frankenstein axles had soft aluminium spacers and it was a design problem. They were covering the upgrade to the stainless steel spacers.

I had started to put the axle back together when little problem came up. Had the axle assembled and was just about ready to roll it under the rear of the bike when Hurricane Irma hit here. It dropped some large limbs on my shop and blew down a lot of trees on my fences. Power was out and the roads were flooded. Trees all in the roads. I had to get the trees off the fences and clear the road before I could ride anyway.

After all the storm commotion was over I rolled the axle back under the bike bolted it up to the swing arm. Everything fit perfectly. Centered up the brake calliper........ Frankenstein had included a packet of brake calliper shims when they returned the parts, by the way. Everything went together fairly easily and I am back on the road. Did about 70 or 80 miles and double checked all the fasteners. It is all back to just like brand new. The swing arm and the axle have no loose play and it runs smooth as silk.

I can't say enough about the way Frankenstein treated me through this whole thing. They were right there with the repairs and they covered the cost of the new parts. Not all the companies I have had to deal with are that straight with the customers! They really stepped up and did a great job! I could not ask for better service from any company!

It is really great to be back riding. Been riding every day since it was fixed and trying to catch up on the missed rides while it was down.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/irma%20after3.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/01-thunderalley-pic.jpg

cotton1
23rd September 2017, 14:56
:clap Happy for you GW:clap Frankenstien has earned some respect with the way they treated you sounds like! That is good old fashioned service!

Hope you have fun catching up on the riding, and glad to hear you survived Irma! I got tired of chainsaws and fence repairs real quick the next day or two after myself. Knowing what came thru up here in SC, I cant imagine what you folks had down there.Glad you got things back straight and can get some 3 wheel therapy for recovery efforts!!

Ride Safe...

Cotton1

Screw Loose Dan
23rd September 2017, 15:23
That's great to hear that the company did right and kept to their word. Glad you are back to riding!

HD_XL rider
25th September 2017, 04:48
Glad to hear how well Frankenstein treated you and that you have all the repairs done and are back on the road (despite Irma)!

doc martin
19th February 2019, 17:39
fantastic article, you have answered all my questions about Frankenstein, Will be ordering the kit soon
Doc

wedge
19th February 2019, 18:28
Apparently this is the first time I have read through this thread. Great job, and great looking trike.

Graywolf
18th April 2019, 20:58
Here is the latest.......... I am giving the Sprotster trike to my son. He will be coming down to get it when he is able to get enough vacation time to make the trip and haul it back with a U-Haul trailer. I am also giving him the manuals, books, special Harley tools, a spare engine, a spare parts bike, and half a trailer load of other parts.......... wheels, pulleys, forks, new belt, boxes of spare parts.

I just got back from Gville Power Sports and this is sitting in my front yard.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/f3-s%20spyder.JPG

I am getting too old to get up and down off a shop stool and be constantly working on wore out motorcycles. I got a 7 year extended warranty and I want to run the wheels off of it without haveing to do much wrenching. Did a lot of research before I bought one. This is the Can Am Spyder F3-S Special Series........... 1330 Rotax 3 cylinder engine, 6 speed transmission, 115 Horsepower out of the box....... 0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds. A lot of people make light of them, but they are perfect for somebody missing half of a leg. My son will be taking the Harley back to upstate NY where he lives. I am sure there will be plenty of phone calls with questions when it breaks down on him.

harley506d
18th April 2019, 21:03
Can't fault your reasoning! Looks absolutely fantastic.Enjoy!

Glamazon
18th April 2019, 21:59
Looks fun, enjoy it

doc martin
18th April 2019, 23:28
Enjoy your new ride. Hope you don't miss the sporty trike too much

Graywolf
19th April 2019, 00:37
I already don't miss the Sporty. Soon as I got it off the trailer I took off and ran up about 70 miles on it. It is 100% smoother riding than the Sporty. It don't send vibrations back through the bars. It has way more power than the Sporty and it is smooth power. I love it already. My son is young. He can take the beating the Sporty will give him. I am too old old for that now.

Graywolf
20th April 2019, 17:51
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-01.jpg

sportsterpaul
20th April 2019, 18:35
Looking good Gray let thebonding continue.....

sportytrace
21st April 2019, 13:13
Oooo, excitingness! ENJOY! Sounds and looks like a perfect match :clap
p.s. Especially like the orange touches ;)

rokytnji
21st April 2019, 13:31
Cool Beans.

Graywolf
21st April 2019, 14:10
Oooo, excitingness! ENJOY! Sounds and looks like a perfect match :clap
p.s. Especially like the orange touches ;)

Yeah, good match up. The Can Am has semi-auto transmission. There is no shifter on the left side, and that is the side my leg is amputated at the knee on. Still have to shift it yourself, but it shifts with a paddle shifter on the left hand grip. Don't need to use the left foot at all, so I can ride the Can Am without modifying it to move any of the controls. All I need to do is build some crutch holders on the side. Don't even have to do that. I have been riding it with the crutches strapped across the rear seat, but that is inconvenient and can't use a tail bag or haul a passenger with the crutches up there. Already put a couple hundred miles on it. I have some stuff on order to build the crutch holders, but wasn't gonna wait on it .

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-02.jpg

Screw Loose Dan
21st April 2019, 16:21
Looking good! I bet it's a bunch of fun. Enjoy!

Eddieblz
21st April 2019, 17:02
First time I'm seeing this thread. I like the convertion. With my knees getting bad I've been thinking about it myself. But mama doesn't like trikes.

Graywolf
21st April 2019, 18:36
Looking good! I bet it's a bunch of fun. Enjoy!

Yeah, bunch of fun! That Spyder is twice as smooth as the old Sporty. It will stick in the curves like a Formula 1 car too. It has a sport mode button that turns off all the traction controls. You can put in that and make the back tire cry for some relief coming out of the corners.

wedge
22nd April 2019, 18:19
That's really cool. I can imagine that with Patina and a touch of Mad Max. Glad to see you are out there having fun.

Graywolf
22nd April 2019, 20:23
That's really cool. I can imagine that with Patina and a touch of Mad Max. Glad to see you are out there having fun.

There is a glass pack, stainless steel megaphone pipe somewhere in the UPS delivery system already. The triple will never sound like a Sportster, but it might could sound more like a sports car winding up. I am leaving the cat on it. Don't want it so loud I can't hear CCR in the bluetooth helmet. If it still turns out to be too loud it will get slip in baffle.

wedge
22nd April 2019, 23:56
There is a glass pack, stainless steel megaphone pipe somewhere in the UPS delivery system already. The triple will never sound like a Sportster, but it might could sound more like a sports car winding up. I am leaving the cat on it. Don't want it so loud I can't hear CCR in the bluetooth helmet. If it still turns out to be too loud it will get slip in baffle.

Where would be without Credence? Or... Steppenwolf, Thorogood, Joplin?

Graywolf
23rd April 2019, 06:30
CCR should be safe enough. Just got an email. The glass pack supposed to be here next Wednesday. The stainless steel I ordered supposed to come in Wednesday too. Fabrication and polishing should begin Thursday.

Graywolf
26th April 2019, 20:43
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-pipe.JPG

RLS glass pack megaphone........

Sounds more like a sports car with glass packs now than it does a Singer sewing machine. The high revving 3 cylinder Rotax will never putt like the old Sportster, but the sound is much better now.

Got 550 miles on the clock in the first week. Break in period is officially done in 50 more miles. Been holding it below 4,000 revs and varying the speeds just like the book says. Another 50 miles and I am turning the horses out of the corral.

sportsterpaul
26th April 2019, 21:04
Hang on tight and give her the whip, curious minds want to know!

Graywolf
28th April 2019, 21:44
She is broke in for all practical purposes. 15 miles one way or the other ain't gonna make no difference. I ain't gonna see how fast it will go. It will go way faster than I want to go. Had plenty of twist left in the throttle at 100. Can't really clock the acceleration, but it has plenty. It would hang with my old Sporty 1200 or maybe even leave it behind. It is fast. Can't be doing too much of that stuff or I am going to be buying a new back tire prematurely. It has a car style, flat tread area back tire, The contact patch is 8.5 inches wide. The stock tire is not a car tire, but people do replace them with car tires. The oem tires are softer compound than car tires, and of course the dealer wants to sell you an OEM tire for $120 when a $90 car tire will fit and last longer.

It will smoke the back tire on pavement just twisting up the throttle from a standing start and bark the tire on every shift until 5th gear. I don't plan to do that very much. I learned some things about buying tires and belts from the old Sportster.

Gotta go wash it now....... covered with love bugs. Them little bastards are out already.

All clean again........... dayum, I hope I don't have to wash it every 600 miles.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-001.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-002.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-003.JPG

sportsterpaul
29th April 2019, 02:54
Gotta be putting a huge grin on your old mug, a good thing!!!

Graywolf
5th May 2019, 23:16
Gotta be putting a huge grin on your old mug, a good thing!!!

Yep, done put over 800 miles on it in just over a week and ain't gone nowhere! It is nice to climb off and still be able to feel my arms.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-tankbag-01.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-tankbag-02.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-tankbag-03.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-tankbag-04.JPG

sportsterpaul
6th May 2019, 03:03
I’m a big fan of tankbags as well, seldom leave home without it!

Graywolf
6th May 2019, 03:23
I’m a big fan of tankbags as well, seldom leave home without it!

Yep, handy place to keep all the little stuff and don't need to dig in the big bag for it. I keep a roll of the heavy duty 1 inch webbing. When I get a new bag or something else with the Cheap Charley straps, I throw them away and put the heavy duty straps on.

wedge
6th May 2019, 20:21
You could easily pull a trailer with that bike and head out for some great camping weekends.

Graywolf
6th May 2019, 21:32
You could easily pull a trailer with that bike and head out for some great camping weekends.

Yep, they pull trailers with them all the time. Some of the guys that got the bagger models have the little trailers that fold out into a 2 room camping palace.

I will haul what I need to haul with the truck and stay in motels when I ride the bike. I am too old to sleep on the dirt or a cot. I had to sleep in bunkers, holes, and on the floor when I was in the military. I will do it if I am gone in the kayak and can't get to a motel. If I am on the scooter, Best Western has a nice campsite for me.

Graywolf
26th May 2019, 19:25
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-flagmount.jpg

Got the crutch holders and the flag mount on it........... just in time for Memorial Day Service tomorrow too.

Graywolf
31st May 2019, 05:41
Put jell padding and cover on the leg rest pad tonight. Just need to dye it black, put water resistant coating on the leather and bolt it back on. Made it from the door off of an old electrical box.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-legrest90.JPG

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Graywolf
31st May 2019, 17:22
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-legrest100.JPG

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Graywolf
31st May 2019, 17:23
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-legrest104.JPG

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-legrest105.JPG

sportytrace
1st June 2019, 03:32
Nice work... fits right in. Your mods are looking good. So pleased you are enjoying it so much :)

Graywolf
1st June 2019, 17:53
Nice work... fits right in. Your mods are looking good. So pleased you are enjoying it so much :)

Got about 1500 miles on it now. The more I ride it, the better I like it. Guess I am spoiled now. No vibration and a real suspension, no need to fight it in the turns. It goes around the twisting turning roads like it was on rails. It is a trike that was built to be a trike, and not a converted 2 wheeler. I would like to be able to ride 2 wheels again, but that is not going to happen.

My old Sportster is still in the family. My son is picking it up and taking it home with him when he gets enough vacation time to drive down here and get it.

Toejam503
1st June 2019, 18:21
When you start fabbing a roof for it, then you know you've gotten carried away!:D

DEEP DIVER
1st June 2019, 19:12
Looks good Graywolf. I like the new can-am trikes with shaft drive. One thing what sort of mileage are you getting per tank/mpg.

Graywolf
1st June 2019, 19:22
Looks good Graywolf. I like the new can-am trikes with shaft drive. One thing what sort of mileage are you getting per tank/mpg.

If I ride it easy or on longer runs it gets about 35 MPG. Might get a little more than that using the cruise control. Riding it hard on crooked 2 lane roads it will still get around 30 MPG. No problem with range......... got a 7.5 gallon tank on it. That gives a range of around 250 miles before you need to gas up.

I don't have shaft drive. Wish it did.......... got belt final drive, but have not heard of any problems with the belts.

DEEP DIVER
2nd June 2019, 13:45
If I ride it easy or on longer runs it gets about 35 MPG. Might get a little more than that using the cruise control. Riding it hard on crooked 2 lane roads it will still get around 30 MPG. No problem with range......... got a 7.5 gallon tank on it. That gives a range of around 250 miles before you need to gas up.

I don't have shaft drive. Wish it did.......... got belt final drive, but have not heard of any problems with the belts.

That's good mpg. I'm getting around mid 30s on my VW 1600. The new cam-am with the shaft drive is the Ryker. It has 2 engines, a 600cc twin or a 900cc triple. Its very low and stripped down.

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/ryker/recreational/ryker.html

Graywolf
2nd June 2019, 16:40
That's good mpg. I'm getting around mid 30s on my VW 1600. The new cam-am with the shaft drive is the Ryker. It has 2 engines, a 600cc twin or a 900cc triple. Its very low and stripped down.

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/ryker/recreational/ryker.html

Yeah, the 1330 engine is on the Spyders and don't come with a shaft drive. I would rather have the larger engine than the shaft drive. Maybe some time in the future they will have a shaft drive for the larger engines. F3-S is the stripped down version of the Spyder with the 1330 triple engine and 6 speed. Rated 115 horsepower from the factory.

wedge
2nd June 2019, 19:23
Yeah, the 1330 engine is on the Spyders and don't come with a shaft drive. I would rather have the larger engine than the shaft drive. Maybe some time in the future they will have a shaft drive for the larger engines. F3-S is the stripped down version of the Spyder with the 1330 triple engine and 6 speed. Rated 115 horsepower from the factory.

So, how difficult is it to swap that belt? I would go for the HP too, and carry a belt if it is changeable on the roadside.

Can you post a picture of your crutch in the holder (or crutches if you carry two)? Just thinking ahead, since none of us are getting younger. I'm also thinking something similar could be used to carry a longbow. I used to carry a Compound on my old Honda, and I still have a Hoyt backpack for my take down recurve, but I shoot the longbow almost exclusively now and have to take my truck to the range which sucks. It's like trading one hobby for another.

Graywolf
2nd June 2019, 19:38
So, how difficult is it to swap that belt? I would go for the HP too, and carry a belt if it is changeable on the roadside.

Can you post a picture of your crutch in the holder (or crutches if you carry two)? Just thinking ahead, since none of us are getting younger. I'm also thinking something similar could be used to carry a longbow. I used to carry a Compound on my old Honda, and I still have a Hoyt backpack for my take down recurve, but I shoot the longbow almost exclusively now and have to take my truck to the range which sucks. It's like trading one hobby for another.

Easier to change that belt than the belt on the Sportster trike, which has to have the whole rear axle disassembled to put a new belt on. That belt is only on a single wheel and would be the same as changing the belt on 2 wheel Sportster. I am not gonna change either one on the side of the road as long as I have roadside assistance insurance. If it ain't too far I will have somebody bring my trailer and take it back to the shop where there is jacks and lifting stands. If it is too far away for that, it will either be hauled to a Can Am dealership for repair or loaded in a U-Haul for the ride home. I have done a lot of repairs on the side of the road, but I ain't piling sticks and rocks under the swing arm and trying to change a belt without all the proper tools.

Yeah, you could rig up a carried for either bows or guns like the crutch holders. My bow is a take down recurve, so it is not a problem to just strap across the seat. The top part comes off that Koplin Clamp with a sort of pin device. You could bolt the base on permanent and only put the top of the clamp on when you wanted to haul the bow / guns.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-crutchholders.JPG

I carried the crutches down low on the left side on the Sporty. The tubes were under the left axle and the front holder was bolted to the left foot peg mount. Carried them like that for 20 years / over 300,000 miles and only had one small problem in all that time.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/2001sportster-crutches.jpg

rokytnji
2nd June 2019, 20:42
You are starting to sound like my younger brother after putting his 1972 kick start only FLH (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c92d88929517584) in Father in Laws storage barn on the in-laws mountain in Colorado. I think one of his daughters or son-in-laws will inherit it.

" If I would have known about this shit years ago "

After picking up his new HD (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c58c31929516614). Oklahoma City, Phoenix , Trinidad. He can't step off of it lately.
Sounds like the new trike you just got is a hoot.
Maybe the July WV meet and greet would love to see ya.

Just a friendly nudge. :D

Graywolf
2nd June 2019, 20:51
You are starting to sound like my younger brother after putting his 1972 kick start only FLH (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c92d88929517584) in Father in Laws storage barn on the in-laws mountain in Colorado. I think one of his daughters or son-in-laws will inherit it.

" If I would have known about this shit years ago "

After picking up his new HD (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c58c31929516614). Oklahoma City, Phoenix , Trinidad. He can't step off of it lately.
Sounds like the new trike you just got is a hoot.
Maybe the July WV meet and greet would love to see ya.

Just a friendly nudge. :D

I gave the Sporty to my son. We will put the title in his name when he comes down to get it. I don't need but one scooter. Had several of them that were all tagged and legal a few times, but always just rode the favorite one. The others just sat in the shop.

I do ride the Spyder a lot, but I also rode the Sporty a lot. It is warm enough here to ride all year. If I am not hauling something large enough to need the truck, I go on the bike.

wedge
3rd June 2019, 00:08
Thanks, that looks really good, seems to be out of the way. Thanks for the pictures.

I hear you about not working on the side of the road, I prefer to avoid that lately myself (not that I ever enjoyed it).

Graywolf
4th June 2019, 15:45
Knee grip pad for side of the tank........... made for Honda CB500, but no logo on these. Not difficult to put on. Come with 3M sticky pads.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-kneegrip18.JPG

Graywolf
2nd October 2019, 12:42
http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-jun-01.jpg

5,000 miles on it in about 5 months and no problems at all so far. Put fog light / running light combo on it and RLS glass pack......

Very fast and stable. Corners much better than any single front wheel trike I ever rode. Don't see very many of these around my area. Everybody always asking questions about it. Way less vibration than my old hard mound Sporty, but just about anything would have less vibration than that. You can lay your hand on the metal part of the handlebar with the Spyder running and barely feel any vibrations.

So far the only down side of it is the front end is very low. You have to always be aware of running over stuff or going through potholes. It not a big problem, but way less ground clearance than the Sporty had.

http://www.tanwater.com/pics/spyder-5grand.jpg

wedge
5th October 2019, 19:25
Put some big wheels on the front? :D

Graywolf
6th October 2019, 00:46
Put some big wheels on the front? :D

No, I could raise it with adjustments at the shocks. It has not been a problem so far. Low center of gravity has advantages in cornering.