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canroc
24th April 2005, 16:09
Anyone wear earplugs while riding? I find the ride, especially the long ones, much more enjoyable when I have earplugs in. Stops all that ringing in the ears I get after a long day on the road... besides it saves my hearing.

The Sporty has more bass to the sound because earplugs filter out all the metallic sounds of the engine.. so I often at first feel something is wrong with the engine when I ride without the plugs after having had them on for a while .

With the half helmet though it looks goofy sporting bright yellow plugs in each ear :( .. looking for flesh coloured ones now.

cantolina
24th April 2005, 16:12
I use'em for anything outside of here in town.....

Can't STAND having the wind tearin' em up....

decman
24th April 2005, 16:17
Yup I wear them too on longer rides.

It is a shock when I take them out and I say
"Is something wrong with the bike?" :(
Put a windshield on an you really hear stuff you
never heard before.

By the way I like goofy :p

boilermaker
24th April 2005, 16:23
Put a windshield on an you really hear stuff you
never heard before.
:p
I'll second that put a windshield on mine last fall
It sure amplifys things :eek:

stevo
24th April 2005, 16:30
eh?? eh???? ...sorry can't hear you.......


got my ear plugs in :p :D:D:D:D:D
























YUP sure do

pquirk
24th April 2005, 17:14
Absolutely, the wind noise is really hard on the ears and tinnitus is a bad thing. I use the little green-blue ones that you squish up and insert. You can hardly see 'em and they're more comfy than those yellow foam ones.

rottenralph
24th April 2005, 17:19
Always, I looked into the filtered ones but they are still too pricy.

Broncodog
24th April 2005, 17:31
Tried em for the first time last week and made a big difference, but when I pulled over for gas after 100 mile freeway ride and I popped them out at the gas station, first thing I heard was the engine. Turned out my primary cover was leaking oil, about half the oil had blown out :censor Took it to dealer for warranty repair, got it back Fri and the dam thing still leaks! So back I go Tue. First time I wore ear plugs and see what happens :laugh

stevo
24th April 2005, 17:42
yeah but think how much you enjoyed it NOT knowin it was stuffed :D:D:D:D

XLFREAK
24th April 2005, 18:45
Y'know, I was just thinking about this and was gonna ask the same question! When I have my full-face on, the exhaust sounds so much louder and my ears ring afterwards, even for short rides. I think I'm gonna grab some more from work.

mikeLI_77
24th April 2005, 18:45
i was thinking of using ear plugs when i ride also. but i was curious. Does wearing the ear plugs filter out all of the noise?
Will I still be able to hear if there is a car near me or something?
I use the ear plugs that you squish together and then jam up your ear and they re-expand in your ear when i go skeet shooting and i can still hear things but the people i am with have to talk pretty loud for me to hear them.

mikeLI_77
24th April 2005, 18:49
Always, I looked into the filtered ones but they are still too pricy.
I wish i could tell you wear to look but i was at the motorcycle show at the Jacob javitz center in NYC and there was a company there that was making ear plugs that fit each person. they had a liquid that they poured in your ear and then you sat there for like 10-15 minutes and waited for the stuff to set and when you were done you had ear plugs that are custom fit to your own ear. I should have taken a card but maybee you can find this somewhere on the web.
they were not too expensive if i remember right at the show but at the shows they usually sell stuff at a cheaper rate than normal.

dwardy
24th April 2005, 18:51
Not only does it save your hearing but extended exposure to loud noise will tire you much sooner. You certainly feel less "beat up" by the wind when you wear ear plugs. I also find it easier to talk to someone you're riding with at the lights.

My hearing sucks to begin with...too many years of loud guitars. So, I'm trying to keep every little bit I have left.

cantolina
24th April 2005, 19:00
i was thinking of using ear plugs when i ride also. but i was curious. Does wearing the ear plugs filter out all of the noise?
Will I still be able to hear if there is a car near me or something?
I use the ear plugs that you squish together and then jam up your ear and they re-expand in your ear when i go skeet shooting and i can still hear things but the people i am with have to talk pretty loud for me to hear them.

There is a frequency specific attenuation that occurs with all "hearing" type ear plugs...

The ratings are on the package....and they differ greatly...

Try out different sets and see how much attenuation you need.

In general, I've never had a problem hearing what I NEED to...so I don't really worry about that....

mikeLI_77
24th April 2005, 19:02
thanks chuck i'll try what i have next time and see how they work.

Shark Doctor
24th April 2005, 19:05
They're a good idea in any case... you only miss the sound when it's already gone... Best to take some precautions before.

xena
24th April 2005, 19:12
I never gave a thought about wearing ear plugs. But then again, on the highway I wear a full face helmet so I'm not bothered by big gusts in my ears - at least I never thought I was bothered by it. My Shoei fits tight and blocks out a ton of noise.
Do any of you ear plug users also wear a full face? And if so, do you really find it necessary to wear ear plugs with a full face helmet?

XLFREAK
24th April 2005, 19:14
Here's one company. I think they had a booth set up at the Heritage Rally a few weeks ago. Basic plugs, custom fitted were about 75 bucks. Those with Bose electronics for mp3/cd/radios were around 275.

http://www.earinc.com/

Shark Doctor
24th April 2005, 19:19
I never gave a thought about wearing ear plugs. But then again, on the highway I wear a full face helmet so I'm not bothered by big gusts in my ears - at least I never thought I was bothered by it. My Shoei fits tight and blocks out a ton of noise.
Do any of you ear plug users also wear a full face? And if so, do you really find it necessary to wear ear plugs with a full face helmet?
Nope. Not with full face. But with half helmet, as often as I can...

cantolina
24th April 2005, 19:21
Here's one company. I think they had a booth set up at the Heritage Rally a few weeks ago. Basic plugs, custom fitted were about 75 bucks. Those with Bose electronics for mp3/cd/radios were around 275.

http://www.earinc.com/

See, NOW we're getting into something elso ALTOGETHER...

The fitted ones are a good way to go....The elctronic styles for MP3's and stuff are NOT what you want....at all...

I have a 160.00 pair that I use for work (and on airplanes, etc) The DO make it SEEM as if the noise has gone away some, but it really HASN'T...in fact, add a little music to the "reverse phase-white noise" blocking technology, and you're in for one heck of a worn ear!

YMMV, but I've already tried em...

NOPE!

cantolina
24th April 2005, 19:22
I never gave a thought about wearing ear plugs. But then again, on the highway I wear a full face helmet so I'm not bothered by big gusts in my ears - at least I never thought I was bothered by it. My Shoei fits tight and blocks out a ton of noise.
Do any of you ear plug users also wear a full face? And if so, do you really find it necessary to wear ear plugs with a full face helmet?

I never did with my full, but I'm gonna try it....harder to judge shift points for me, in the full....we'll see next ride with it..:)

hero
24th April 2005, 21:06
Same here , both the g/f & myself had those custom-made liquid plugs made & use them regularly on longer trips. A bit pricey, but definately worth it- hers is clear mixed with blue squishy rubber (very cool) & mine is plain yellow, kinda looks like a bung of earwax! :rolleyes: A BIG difference when you step off the machine after an hour or two of mild to harsh riding!!

For those of us in the UK, it's at www.ultimateear.com Ranges from £55 upwards.

wagoneer12
24th April 2005, 21:42
don't have a full face helmet.

with no helmet on, windshield or no windshield all is fine.

But with a half helmet on.....oouuwwweee! That hurts. The straps cut the wind as it blows by my ears. I use plugs when I have to wear the half helmet.

pquirk
24th April 2005, 22:05
I never gave a thought about wearing ear plugs. But then again, on the highway I wear a full face helmet so I'm not bothered by big gusts in my ears - at least I never thought I was bothered by it. My Shoei fits tight and blocks out a ton of noise.
Do any of you ear plug users also wear a full face? And if so, do you really find it necessary to wear ear plugs with a full face helmet?
The wind noise in my FF is actually worse than with my 1/2. That's what I get for paying $250 for a helmet :frownthre . 'Spose it all depends on the helmet design, it sounds like you got a good one.

Alasportster
24th April 2005, 23:03
I almost always ride with plugs when going any kind of distance. I'm like a lot of folks, I've already got enough ringin' in my ears without making it worse.

I find that I hear horns, sirens, etc. with no problem with the plugs, so I keep a pair in the bike and jacket pocket so I "don't leave home without 'em."

Excuse me, did somebody say somethin' ?

Bikerdude
25th April 2005, 00:56
I almost always ride with plugs so I keep a pair in the bike and jacket pocket so I "don't leave home without 'em."

Excuse me, did somebody say somethin' ?

"DITTO" :smoke

TechRep
25th April 2005, 01:08
Found this... kinda' long, but it's good info. :tour


EAR PLUGS & RIDING by Dr. Mike Coley, Norton Riders Collective
I love motorcycles. I began riding at about age eleven and was reading about them before that. And like most everyone else I gave little consideration to what the noise associated with riding might be doing to my hearing or what I might be able to do about it. As I got older (that is I got my driver’s license) I found myself gravitating toward more road riding. And with more years came more and more road riding, including long distance touring instead of the dirt riding I‘d been doing as a kid. I continued to read just about every publication printed about bikes, but I spent more and more time reading about touring and road riding, and just how to do this better, and safer.

In my mid-twenties I decided that helmets were actually a good idea and started using one routinely, but hearing protection was only something I had read about. But as my riding began to include more and more time on highways I decided to try using ear plugs. I grew-up believing that a good rider needs to be able to hear the engine, and the surrounding traffic. And I must admit that the first time I tried ear plugs I was not overly impressed. They were the wax variety which were effective in blocking the noise, but not very comfortable to wear. But as I got used to them the more I wanted to use them. I found myself feeling less tired at the end of a long ride, and the truth is at highway speeds about the only thing I was hearing was the wind anyway.

Ear plugs became a routine part of my riding gear for any type of riding other than that done in town. I thought then, and still do now, that in town I want to hear everything going on around me-my engine, car tires, car engines, sirens, etc. I also stumbled across a type of foam plug that worked as well as the wax ones in reducing noise, but was much more convenient to insert and more comfortable to wear. A type that I still use to this day.

Over the next few years in addition to reading about and riding motorcycles, I was reading about and learning how to become an ear, nose, and throat surgeon. It was during my medical training and subsequent years in practice that I became aware of just how easy it is to damage our hearing. And unfortunately, damage that is noise induced is usually permanent and can only be treated by the use of hearing aids.

The actual hearing apparatus of the ear looks like a snail’s shell, and is found inside the skull in what‘s called the inner ear along with our balance apparatus. Inside of this snail’s shell (cochlea) are millions of cells with what look like tiny hairs sticking out of them. It is the hair cells that become damaged with noise exposure. The most frequent kind of noise induced damage is that which occurs over a long period of time, like factory work. All of us know people that have had exposure to noise and have trouble hearing. The progression of this kind of hearing loss is usually very, very slow, and with the high pitches being affected first. Initially, this is so mild and in frequencies that we seldom use, that the individual his/herself is unaware they are having a problem. But with continued exposure more and more of the hair cells become damaged and the hearing loss worsens and creeps into lower frequencies. This usually manifests as trouble understanding conversation if there is any significant background noise, like at a party or in a crowd of people. Often watching TV is a problem. Either they need the TV much louder than other family members would like, or they have trouble understanding what’s being said. The person knows people are talking, but just can’t quite make out the words. They also do better when they are talking one-on-one, or with people with deeper voices.

Now how does all this tie into riding motorcycles? Well, we all know that there is a lot of wind noise when we ride at speeds of about fifty miles per hour or more. And for those of us who ride with little or no fairing or windshield this noise can be pretty loud. Exposure to this degree of noise will cause damage to those hair cells that are located in the hearing portion of our ears. This is not a “maybe will cause“, but is a “it will cause“ situation. How much damage and how long before enough damage is done before we notice is unpredictable. Some people are much more susceptible than others and may sustain damage much, much sooner than someone else exposed to the same conditions. And this is where ear plugs will help. I’ve focused on wind noise, but any relatively loud noise will do the same thing-loud exhaust systems, hammering, power tools, lawn mowers (yes including the new quiet ones), weed eaters, and on and on.

The use of ear plugs will certainly lower the volume of the noise you are exposed to, but surprisingly will aid your hearing to some degree at freeway speeds. The frequency (pitch) of the wind noise is very effectively muted while lower frequencies much less so. Now don’t get me wrong, you’re not going to put in ear plugs and go out for a ride and find no wind noise, but the wonderful mechanical and exhaust sounds unaffected. But, what you will find is that you’ll still be able to hear the engine well enough to gauge engine speed or telltale signs of a problem. You’ll also be surprised just how tiring the wind noise had been and how much less fatigue there will be after a ride.

I routinely ride with a half dozen other people who rarely if ever used ear plugs until I started riding with them. Five of the six now routinely use them, and the sixth does when he thinks about it. Each of my friends already has some degree of hearing loss and each thought what difference will wearing ear plugs make if I already have trouble hearing. Beside being less tired at the end of a ride, by using plugs they are protecting what hearing they have left. The damage that has already been done is permanent, but if a person does not protect what hearing they have, further damage will occur. Whatever loss you presently have will worsen if you continue to subject yourself to loud noise.

I’m frequently asked what style or brand of ear plug is the best, and how much do they cost. Effective plugs will cost as little as about $1.50 per pair, or as much as $100.00 for custom made versions. For years now I’ve used EAR brand foam ear plugs. These are the yellow foam barrel shaped ones that you roll between your fingers to compress them and then insert into your ear canal. In a few seconds they expand to fill the canal. I’ve found these to be cheap (in the $1.50 per pair range), reusable, comfortable, and effective. There are literally dozens of different types, so my suggestion is to try a pair of your choosing and if they are not what you want, try a different kind. My friends all use slightly different type. Five friends, five different types of plugs. The secret is not so much what type or brand, but rather their routine use.

Whether or not a rider chooses to use ear plugs is obviously a personal decision. But as a long time rider whose owned some forty or fifty motorcycles over the years (including: Ducati, Harley-Davidson, BMW, British Iron, and all brands Japanese); and as a physician specializing in diseases and treatment of the ear, I strongly recommend their use.

Your hearing is like your eyesight, protect what you’ve got because you only get one pair.

I think I'm going to get me some ear plugs :)

Bikerdude
25th April 2005, 17:17
.......there is a lot os good-sound advice on this thread. Hearing loss will gradually continue as u age and as u ride...Believe me..it WILL occur.

The plugs I use work for ME. I can hear what I need to hear, and it cuts that wind noise BIG TIME. http://www.earplugsonline.com

The rating on mine has a Noise Reduction Rating of 34 decibels. I bought the "six-pack" set and if whoever I ride with wants earplugs, I give him a pair.FOR KEEPS :laugh That's what friends do..

I would encourage everyone to try them. As I get older, I find that slowly, every damn thing starts to work less than normal...I've been riding for 35 years and my hearing is NOT what it used to be. Age--yes--riding-Hell YES.

Everybody ride defensively--be Safe :smoke

sportsterrific
25th April 2005, 18:33
Im in on this...I started wearing earplugs when I started using a 1/2 helmet a couple of years ago, and now I won't ride without them, except for quick rides in thc ity or commuting to work.
I do use the cheap ones however, as I consider them dispoable items and they get kinda dirty after a while- yuck!

missyd
25th April 2005, 19:33
Can't wear earplugs when riding my bike. My ears are so sensible at the inside that I will hear my blood pulsing through my body and this noise makes me some sort of 'seasick on bike'! :frownthre
The only earprotection my ears will tolerate is selfmade ones out of cottonswab. :rolleyes:

But I ALWAYS wear earplugs for visits to disco/live concert etc .... :shhhh

Bikerdude
25th April 2005, 23:28
My ears are so sensible at the inside


Gosh...I LOVE sensitive women!!!!!! :p

JAFI
25th April 2005, 23:30
I ride with a FF helmet and almost always ride with a pair of the soft silicone custom fit plugs. I had a pair made at one of the bike shows at Rawhide, and they are even blue so my bike and I are color matched. I keep them in my jacket pocket so they are always with me.

There is a night and day difference in how I feel and hear after getting off my bike, no ringing, buzzing, or muffeled hazy feeling. They are on my top 10 list of the best things I've bought for my bike.

Deicer18
26th April 2005, 01:03
See, NOW we're getting into something elso ALTOGETHER...

The fitted ones are a good way to go....The elctronic styles for MP3's and stuff are NOT what you want....at all...

I have a 160.00 pair that I use for work (and on airplanes, etc) The DO make it SEEM as if the noise has gone away some, but it really HASN'T...in fact, add a little music to the "reverse phase-white noise" blocking technology, and you're in for one heck of a worn ear!

YMMV, but I've already tried em...

NOPE!

Wow....$160 really? I work at the World Hub for Fedex and we receive and launch approx 200 flights every night. Most of us use plugs with a rating of NRR 32db. We also can use head sets if we so desire. We have to be tested every 6 months for hearing loss, and in 7 years, my hearing has not declined according the the testers. But I have noticed a loss of higher pitched sounds.

I do ride with plugs in because constant wind in the ears tends to give me headaches. As for hearing loss.....all I can say is........once you injure your hearing there is no repairing it. Might be able to use a type of aid to be able to hear, but no real repair. Just my opinion.

stevo
26th April 2005, 01:16
I've just bought a pair of SHURE N2C in ear 'phones.....

I'll let ya's know how they go once they get here and I've tried 'em


here's a link to some http://store.yahoo.com/earplugstore/shure2isear.html

thatbikerguy
1st May 2005, 22:48
I wish i could tell you wear to look but i was at the motorcycle show at the Jacob javitz center in NYC and there was a company there that was making ear plugs that fit each person. they had a liquid that they poured in your ear and then you sat there for like 10-15 minutes and waited for the stuff to set and when you were done you had ear plugs that are custom fit to your own ear. I should have taken a card but maybee you can find this somewhere on the web.
they were not too expensive if i remember right at the show but at the shows they usually sell stuff at a cheaper rate than normal.
can't recall the company... but their always at the mc shows.

blueglide88
2nd May 2005, 01:04
I use the squishy foam plugs. This year I've been making an attempt to wear my helmet more often. The damn full face makes life miserable sound wise. It seems to resonate my bikes noise inside my head. Maybe I'll switch to a half helmet, but the earplugs help. Since I had a Thunderheader on my bagger for years, ear plugs were a number 1 priority for long rides.

stevo
3rd May 2005, 11:28
Just tried out the SHURE E2C earphones ....


F&*&N AWESOME


They fit under the helmet OK....ya gotta make sure ya hold the sides out tho when ya gettin it on...once it's they're fine....

I havn't done a ride with 'em on yet....will do that later...


The sound is unbelievable compared to anything else I have hear ;) :D ....

I've got Floyd playin at the mo and I hearin stuff I've NEVER heard before....

The only thing I can compare them to for sound is a set of speakers the Girlfriends brother has....they were about $14,000 aus...yes that's $14,000....

these aren't quite in that category but they're the closest thing I've listened too for a long time...

an unfortunate side effect tho, one that I found with Gregs speakers, is if the recording is shit, then you can hear the shit too......

You can pick the "mud" wall that's put up as fill on some recordings...those audiophiles will know what I mean...and for everyone else ...ignorance truly is bliss

cantolina
3rd May 2005, 11:31
Just tried out the SHURE E2C earphones ....


F&*&N AWESOME


They fit under the helmet OK....ya gotta make sure ya hold the sides out tho when ya gettin it on...once it's they're fine....

I havn't done a ride with 'em on yet....will do that later...


The sound is unbelievable compared to anything else I have hear ;) :D ....

I've got Floyd playin at the mo and I hearin stuff I've NEVER heard before....

The only thing I can compare them to for sound is a set of speakers the Girlfriends brother has....they were about $14,000 aus...yes that's $14,000....

these aren't quite in that category but they're the closest thing I've listened too for a long time...

an unfortunate side effect tho, one that I found with Gregs speakers, is if the recording is shit, then you can hear the shit too......

You can pick the "mud" wall that's put up as fill on some recordings...those audiophiles will know what I mean...and for everyone else ...ignorance truly is bliss

Glad those worked out!

I'm gonna look into'em myself now..

As for the mud....that's wjhy I listen to so much Steely Dan...lol (as most audiophiles and ALL audio engineers will suggest! ) ;)

Nice find!