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5.4L to Freedom
22nd October 2009, 22:15
So I was just doing some reading and came across a unique article about the 1977 Confederate edition Harleys... anyone on here have an original? Even seen them or heard of them?

I kinda want one, or would really just like to see how they are identified as original, clones, or bogus.

sportsterdude.248
22nd October 2009, 22:39
I have saw a couple. As I remember it is just a Confederate flag theme on the tank and I believe battery cover. Check ebay I don't think they are that limited in production.
I could be wrong.

dragon62
22nd October 2009, 22:46
here you go.....:D:D

http://www.sgcustomcycles.com/flhcsa2.jpg



http://static.racingjunk.com/63/ui/0/79/2692935373019-Antique-Classic-1977-Harley-Sportster.jpg

Bulpitt
22nd October 2009, 22:48
googled & found this pic
http://www.sgcustomcycles.com/flhcsa2.jpg

ghost_rader
22nd October 2009, 22:51
according to a site,
http://www.caimag.com/wordpress/2009/01/04/hidden-harley-1977-harley-confederte-edition-motorcycle/
( the production numbers were low - reported to be 44 Harley Confederate FLH motorcycless, 228 Harley Confederate Super Glide motorcycles, 299 Harley Confederate Sportster XLs, 45 Sportster XLCHs, and 15 Sportster XLTs.)

sportsterdude.248
22nd October 2009, 22:58
This article has the price listed waaay high. I bid on one on ebay not more than 4 months ago in IL that didn't go anywhere near what this article claims and Barrett Jackson sold one mint in 02 for $3000 and if there are only 23 docs. matching in existance today 21 more and I have seen em all.:D:D
It is a nice looking bike though. Good luck!



Few Confederate Edition models survive, with just 23 total known today, including the 1977 XLH Sportster pictured here and previously owned by Matt Berthold.

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Years produced: 1977
Total production: 299
Claimed power: 61hp @ 6,200rpm
Top speed: 115 mph
Engine type: 997cc OHV, air-cooled V-twin
Weight: (wet) 220kg (485lbs)
Price then: $3,127
Price now: $8,000-$20,000
MPG: 44

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Disavowed by the factory for years, and unknown even to most Harley riders, 1977’s Confederate Editions are a fascinating footnote in the history of Harley-Davidson, and may be the most collectible Harley ever.

1977 was an interesting time in America. The year before, citizens had been giddy with patriotic pride as the entire population settled into a year-long celebration of the country’s bicentennial. Patriotic expressions were the order of the day, and naturally, manufacturers got into the act as well. Harley-Davidson introduced special “Liberty Editions” of its bikes featuring red, white and blue detailing, while Ford marketed a special red, white and blue Pinto. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. As it happens, it was also the heyday of “Southern Rock.” Bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Allman Brothers, Black Oak Arkansas and Marshall Tucker were the new cultural vogue, regularly showcasing their roots in visual shorthand with large confederate flags as backdrops for their stages.

The rise of Southern Rock gave the South a new cultural cachet, while also unfortunately spawning Billy Beer, Hee Haw and, in 1979, The Dukes of Hazzard. So what’s this have to do with motorcycles? For Harley-Davidson, it was the motivation behind the most unknown model in the company’s history.

State of the industry
In 1976, motorcycle sales were booming, thanks in large measure to a continuing oil crisis. The lion’s share of product came from Japan, the once-great British bike industry limping to a self-inflicted death from outdated technology, short-sighted management and recurring labor strikes. But the Big Four — Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki — were enjoying unparalleled success with their less expensive, technologically superior twins and fours.

Harley-Davidson, which held 21 percent of the over-700cc market in the U.S., was already charging Japan with “dumping” — selling motorcycles cheaper in the states than other markets. That’s what John Davidson, then-president of Harley-Davidson, alleged in the early 1970s when the motorcycle business was doing well world-wide. “The Japanese established production schedules that were much higher than mid-Seventies demand for their products,” he contended. “They chose the U.S. to unload their excess production.” (Following strong lobbying from H-D, on April 1, 1983, the International Trade Commission imposed new tariffs on all Japanese motorcycles 700cc and above.)

Harley-Davidson was still in an unhappy alliance with American Machine and Foundry (AMF) that would continue until a company buyback in 1981. The 1969 merger with AMF had brought engineering and marketing experience, as well as a generous influx of cash. Unfortunately, federal mandates meant much of the engineering money was directed toward safety and anti-pollution features, not new product development.

Furthermore, the public balked at “The Great American Freedom Machine” being built by a bowling ball manufacturer, and H-D bristled at AMF’s heavy-handed management. It’s long been fashionable to attack AMF/H-D’s quality control during this period, but the worst problems were mostly contained by the mid-1970s. The 1970s motorcycle boom appeared to have a positive effect on quality, as H-D found itself overwhelmed trying to meet demand.

jnoonan1
22nd October 2009, 22:58
A guy in my neighborhood has an ironhead that is painted up like the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazard.Orange paint and a confederate flag on the tank.Nice looking bike.

joesporty
22nd October 2009, 23:02
A guy in my neighborhood has an ironhead that is painted up like the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazard.Orange paint and a confederate flag on the tank.Nice looking bike.

i was gonna say...paint it orange..slap an 01 on the side......:tour yeeeeehaaaaaaa

on a side note..my girlfreind found in her parents barn a mint condition all original as far as i know.?? AMF 3 speed pedal bike...kinda like a modern 10 speed/cruiser pedal bike...but very old....she has been riding around...maybe i should take some pics and post them up.....

sportsterdude.248
22nd October 2009, 23:09
i was gonna say...paint it orange..slap an 01 on the side......:tour yeeeeehaaaaaaa

on a side note..my girlfreind found in her parents barn a mint condition all original as far as i know.?? AMF 3 speed pedal bike...kinda like a modern 10 speed/cruiser pedal bike...but very old....she has been riding around...maybe i should take some pics and post them up.....

Of the girlfriend or the bike? I vote girlfriend.:D

5.4L to Freedom
22nd October 2009, 23:15
Of the girlfriend or the bike? I vote girlfriend.:D

I vote girlfriend in a g-string covering her nips with her hands in front of a harley

sportsterdude.248
22nd October 2009, 23:27
I vote girlfriend in a g-string covering her nips with her hands in front of a harley

Sounds like you have been challenged to produce the pics you promised bro:laugh:smoke

joesporty
22nd October 2009, 23:28
haha good one sporsterdude.248...ill do you one better...heres a pic of both my girlfreinds..

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/slabbercatcher/MDA0900079.jpg

and im not talking about that cat to the left on the blue sporty either....weirdo:sofa

5.4L to Freedom
23rd October 2009, 00:30
haha good one sporsterdude.248...ill do you one better...heres a pic of both my girlfreinds..

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/slabbercatcher/MDA0900079.jpg

and im not talking about that cat to the left on the blue sporty either....weirdo:sofa

I see my vote didn't count :( dang it thats the second vote that didnt count this year:wtf

Oh well its a good picture none the less... I suppose we have to keep the forum rated R anyhow... if we step it up to X we may have to pay to talk about bikes:frownthre

Pork Chop
23rd October 2009, 00:43
haha good one sporsterdude.248...ill do you one better...heres a pic of both my girlfreinds..

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/slabbercatcher/MDA0900079.jpg

and im not talking about that cat to the left on the blue sporty either....weirdo:sofa

Sooooo, Your other girlfriend is the on in the red shirt back there?:smoke

snowman
23rd October 2009, 01:09
You guys are talking about the other guys in the pic...

All I'm seeing is one girl on top of the other...:wtf

He's got it made in my book...:banana:banana:banana

joesporty
23rd October 2009, 03:30
You guys are talking about the other guys in the pic...

All I'm seeing is one girl on top of the other...:wtf

He's got it made in my book...:banana:banana:banana


snowmans got the right idea...heres a 3 some... me and the ole lady and my girlfreind..(girlfreind is on bottom)

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/slabbercatcher/MDA0900130.jpg

Hopper
23rd October 2009, 05:02
There was a thread on here about them before someplace.

I posted these on it but they are still good. It was for sale on Fleabay last year sometime.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/confed2small.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/confed1s.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confedtop.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/?action=view&current=confedleft.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confedleft.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confed3.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/1977XLHD20Confederate.jpg


Oh, I just saw the second page of this thread and see we have moved on since then. Oops.

joesporty
23rd October 2009, 13:10
sorry didnt mean to thread jack..back to topic...

Ivan RoachCoach
23rd October 2009, 15:22
...or the Bicentennial Edition, or the Anniversary model.
They're all just cheap decal/sticker jobs, that you can get off of eBay, on otherwise cookie-cutter Sportsters.

Since there were NO model-specific VINs on any of these "special editions", every single one up for sale should be treated as just a clone.

ericfreeman
23rd October 2009, 15:37
...or the Bicentennial Edition, or the Anniversary model.
They're all just cheap decal/sticker jobs, that you can get off of eBay, on otherwise cookie-cutter Sportsters.

Since there were NO model-specific VINs on any of these "special editions", every single one up for sale should be treated as just a clone.

Well, the '78 Anniversary Edition did come with the gold mag wheels: can't really call those cheap decals. Otherwise, you're correct about the "Specials" being just paint and stickers. Except for the '77 XLT with the 2G Vins.

Eric

Ivan RoachCoach
23rd October 2009, 15:59
...Too bad H-D didn't carry those over as an aftermarket offering.
They were bad-ass!!!

GA_Ironhead
23rd October 2009, 21:05
The thread Hopper mentioned (I think): http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?p=1678817

LaidBack
12th September 2010, 23:39
I am hunting for a few parts you see I got this old Spoty from a guy in trade then I had a man in Utah told me to hold on to it and do some reseach I might like what I found. This is what HD told me my new bike was a 1977 Sportster XLT Gray in color and one of only very few made. how many that were made he would not tell me and he claimed he could not confirm that it was a Confederate Edition as they were not number. But there were a few that were made like it with electric start and no kick and the larger tank. The VIN begins 2G and I have heard that in it self is a rarity.The bike has been molested and treated badly I would like to restore to origanal can someone point me at so parts mainly the tank touring tank that is. help and educate me.

Hopper
13th September 2010, 00:59
Sounds like an XLT. They may have made an XLT Confederate, but nobody would know for sure as seems like no records were kept, or HD does not want to fess up to them in this politically correct age.
Does yours have the Confederate flag on the tank and the uniform gold braid decal on the front fender? Other than that, they were a pretty standard bike, with a bit of extra chrome, ,like on the instruments etc.

Whether it is worth much more than a standard bike is debateable. It is maybe more of a neat curiosity than a cult icon collector item. But that may change over time, specially in the south.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/confed2small.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/confed1s.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confedtop.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/?action=view&current=confedleft.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confedleft.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/confed3.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg220/ozhopper/STUFF/1977XLHD20Confederate.jpg

LaidBack
13th September 2010, 01:51
Someone in the past spray painted it all black but you can see from where the paint is chipped that pale blue gray under. I just thought it might be nice to keep as a wrench bike to relax with while restoring. I think my hardest hunt will be for the touring tank.

IronMick
13th September 2010, 05:49
The 2G is definitely an XLT, also called a Roadster. The factory service manual is 99484-78; The parts catalog is 99451-78B. You will want these for sure. The HD shop, J&P Cycles and eBay are the usual sources.

Here is a pic of the same tank from a 1980. It took me two years to find this on eBay. This one is in original 1980 paint. The mounting hardware is the same as the Superglide tank and is still listed in the J&P catalog - a big rubber horseshoe and a spring at the back, well nuts at the front. The spring is best replaced with an intake o-ring.

The tank is similar to the Superglide tank, but apparently is different where it mounts at the front.



http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr227/mdawdy/1978XLH/FuelSystem/RoadsterTankS.jpg

LaidBack
13th September 2010, 06:27
Thanks Mike this info will serve as a good start point.

ericfreeman
13th September 2010, 20:01
Here's my XLT shortly after restoring the saddlebags. I have the OEM seat fitted in this pic but have switched it for a LePera solo and P-pad that looks better and is more comfortable for me. Hardest part to find is the aluminum bar that connects the turn signals together where they mount to the fender.

Eric

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv336/ericfreeman55/77%20XLT/P1000236.jpg

Here's the other side. Notice I don't have the stock 2-1 exhaust or carb fitted. I'm not out for a factory restoration, just the things to make 500 mile days more comfortable.

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv336/ericfreeman55/77%20XLT/AugustWinthropRun020.jpg

LaidBack
14th September 2010, 08:06
Does anyone got a photo or picture of a Confederate XLT? I have seen just about everything else in almost stages but yet to see the Confederate XLT.

ericfreeman
14th September 2010, 08:32
They never made a Confederate XLT as far as I know.

Eric

ErnieConnell
14th September 2010, 08:39
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/uploadedImages/articles/issues/2009-01-01/Confederate1.jpg

I think this is what ya'll are looking for.

LaidBack
14th September 2010, 08:52
From what I have been told they made 19 and this was one of them. At least that was what the HD guy indicated he would not say there were any made for sure he just said by color and decals it Would have likely have been one. I never can get anything real firm out of them on the confederates.

Ivan RoachCoach
14th September 2010, 10:46
...HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!! :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh
Shit, I tried. But I couldn't keep a straight face doing it.

ErnieConnell
14th September 2010, 11:13
(Full story)
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/motorcycle-reviews/harley-davidson.aspx?page=2

The 1977 Confederate Edition
Like the Liberty and Anniversary Editions that immediately preceded and followed them, the Confederate Editions were stock Harleys with special paint and decals. The CEs wore metallic gray paint (DuPont Imron 44437 Ice Blue Metallic) and rebel flag decals (H-D part no. 61651-77 and 61650-77) on the tank, while the front fender sported a general’s sleeve braid decal (H-D part no. 59100-77).

The Confederate Editions were built across the model range in irregular numbers including 44 FLH Electra Glides, 228 Super Glides (all FXEs with the 3.5-gallon “bread loaf” tank borrowed from H-D’s Italian Aermacchi cousins), 299 XLH Sportsters, 45 XLCH Sportsters and 15 XLT Sportsters. The Confederates were produced in one batch only, and forgotten almost immediately.

With just 631 produced, the Confederate Editions were clearly a limited production, yet how is it that only 23 models are accounted for today? It’s very likely that dealerships changed the sheet metal to more broadly acceptable motifs to better move product, and/or that owners changed the paint in light of a changing political climate. It’s also possible that Harley-Davidson itself bought up surviving examples to get them off the market.

ericfreeman
14th September 2010, 13:16
I stand corrected on the XLT Confederate models! Never seen one or even heard of someone with one. Rare indeed but still pretty much worthless as a collector bike: only paint and decals separate them from normal Sportsters.

Eric

ErnieConnell
14th September 2010, 13:42
Without H.D. owning up to the confederate edition, and no series consecutive manufacturers numbers to go by; this would be hard to prove. I doubt the dealers invoice distinguished the stars & bars model in 1977.
Finding a "REAL" confederate XLT would be Honus Wagner of all Sportsters.

LaidBack
14th September 2010, 19:37
...HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA]]-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!! :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh
Shit, I tried. But I couldn't keep a straight face doing it.

No one ask you to keep nothing so go blow!

Hey anit looking for a lost money or a wind fall a little back ground and some help finding parts. It is an odity and that is what I am treating it as not a diamond that I need to polish. I figured it would be a nice hobby bike and if I can restore it then that is my bussines my money and my time.
If you do not want to help or learn some of the history than please step off.

To everyone else thanks for the help and just got the letter back from HD today I will scan it in soon and let everyone see that they are admitting to the Confederates, now.

Hopper
14th September 2010, 21:36
... just got the letter back from HD today I will scan it in soon and let everyone see that they are admitting to the Confederates, now.

Cool, please do so. Interesting to see what they say.

the cowboy way
14th September 2010, 22:01
googled & found this pic
http://www.sgcustomcycles.com/flhcsa2.jpg

S&G custom cycles
in Columbia TN
is 1 of the most awsome indy shops
confederate is there moto

Ivan RoachCoach
15th September 2010, 09:08
...owner finds parts: eGay, stealerships, indie shops, etc.
It's a plain-old IH with a decal/sticker job, not a limited edition ANYTHING --- which means I do know my Sportster history.
I'm not so sure about you, however.

BTW, if you don't want to hear the truth or different opinions --- don't post.
Like anyone else here, I'll respond whenever and wherever I choose to, regardless of whether you approve or not.
Get over yourself and toughen up. :laugh :laugh :laugh



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LaidBack
15th September 2010, 12:41
The roach part of your handle is a perfect fit. Did you see wwhere anyone ever said there was anything differant, NO you are just one of those folks who always tries to rain on anyone elses day. So to you I say have a nice day and may the Lord smile a blessing onto you and your family.

ErnieConnell
15th September 2010, 14:54
Someone in the past spray painted it all black but you can see from where the paint is chipped that pale blue gray under. I just thought it might be nice to keep as a wrench bike to relax with while restoring. I think my hardest hunt will be for the touring tank.

Have you tried some paint thinner where the Johnney Reb flag decal would be,
or the front (scrambled eggs decal) fender?

on½....
9th June 2015, 21:43
Been reading up on what i can find around the web. Starting to think this 4a3xxxxh7 77 xlch (kick and electric start) i've been fixing may be a confederate that was covered over for what ever reason.

The front fender is chopped off from the forks forward (that would remove the gold trim?? saw post said one bike had.) and under this sloppy black n blue lighting water color looking paint is a silvery bluish paint. Scratch on the tank looks like there is darker grey primer over the original paint never sanded it down, primer paint primer paint.

I looked up under the back fairing and the whole inside is that silvery bluish factory looking paint.... Looking for more signs. info. Looks like it was painted in a hurry maybe to cover idk. Saw the paint numbers need to see if they match. Picture of the inner fender and the original paint look almost identical just aged...

I'm graphic designer I remember doing paint striping by layer yet got hit n lot escapes me.. off hand, anyone know how to strip paint layer by layer? Were any other Harleys made with those same paint numbers? More over are those paint numbers specific to the confederate only?

Are normal stock fenders silvery blue up underneath? There is black to the edges yet up behind the breakers is that silver bluish painted plastic running the inside?? They painted the bike black n blue lighting, bruised lightning idk. Did that mean anything back in the bike's culture? Besides the obvious Union colors.

Good information,
Thanks

on½....
9th June 2015, 21:49
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/11407229_10204430091932189_7280183068475401206_n.j pg?oh=9b679522706c9af42196dc0b99c4d465&oe=55F3FAFA

simeli
9th June 2015, 22:13
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/11407229_10204430091932189_7280183068475401206_n.j pg?oh=9b679522706c9af42196dc0b99c4d465&oe=55F3FAFA

Take some shots of the whole bike and close ups of each side of the tank!

Reference: http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=1871694

on½....
9th June 2015, 23:53
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/q82/s720x720/10351094_10202551514648931_4370755891952203461_n.j pg?oh=8b5fdff98c5d63c389cd86df76f9ea13&oe=55F2348F

Side when first got her. Rear pipe does not loop forward or cross over or have the oval air filter yet those could have been changed when they chopped the front fender. Will have to get tank close ups. No impressions visible in the tank don't think painted over sticker. I tried to take a picture of the scratch in the tank where can see paint layers, tho camera can't see the layers as well as eyes can.

on½....
9th June 2015, 23:55
bunch of pics on my fb all public.

https://www.facebook.com/timothy.r.nealey/media_set?set=a.10202551799696057.1073741830.12280 11573&type=3

Glamazon
10th June 2015, 00:11
I like them,count this Limey as a fan.I'd never heard of them til a few weeks ago and never seen one in the metal.Just make sure it's the real McCoy and you don't buy a Sexton Blake.

jc1753hughes
10th June 2015, 00:48
Need to call HD customer service with those numbers if you must. You will know for sure in two weeks. My 77h was originally dressed in silver according to the files. -J

brianbbs67
10th June 2015, 01:00
That dupont imrom 44473 Iceblue Metallic, was Only used on the one run of CE bikes. 54 were xlch. search for my build thread. HD can tell you color and there is a sequential production range of them all FX, FXE, XL, XLCH. But to my knowledge it has never been fully Identified.

I am not sure of Wiki numbers but you will get the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Confederate_Edition

Ireeman
10th June 2015, 01:26
Imron wraps around damage on a tank whilst it happens, farging great paint.

Tough paint..aircraft paint.

brianbbs67
10th June 2015, 01:30
Imron wraps around damage on a tank whilst it happens, farging great paint.

Tough paint..aircraft paint.

Too bad its unavailable now.

rejeanprimeau
10th June 2015, 01:44
Too bad its unavailable now.

Axalta make them now, they bought the right from Dupont.

brianbbs67
10th June 2015, 01:49
Axalta make them now, they bought the right from Dupont.

Thanks, Rejean, I played hell, Simeli, too finally matching a powder coat.

Ireeman
10th June 2015, 02:08
Axalta make them now, they bought the right from Dupont.

This is why i never liked you.:clap

on½....
10th June 2015, 17:56
Just called, Harley customer care couldn't find anything on my vin#... Now guess i'm going into paint matching see if can determine if same paint. Told me don't have any records for amf all destroyed. I could hear him mumbling to himself through some near it tho only found a CR in 77.

rejeanprimeau
10th June 2015, 19:44
This is why i never liked you.:clap

Me neither, I'm sure if we ever meet it will end up in a slapping fight, no fist allowed just open hand smackaroo.

brianbbs67
10th June 2015, 20:30
Just called, Harley customer care couldn't find anything on my vin#... Now guess i'm going into paint matching see if can determine if same paint. Told me don't have any records for amf all destroyed. I could hear him mumbling to himself through some near it tho only found a CR in 77.

He's wrong. They have archives on all AMF bikes. Pete Simmet used to handle vin search production info. He retired and no one knows what they are doing yet. May take several calls.

on½....
10th June 2015, 21:35
Thanks Brian and the rest of you guys, will keep calling. Just found my front head valve or guide is leaking when look in the front exhaust port. :/ Get to go through the head threads now. Got her as a running bike then i pushed her really hard so now she showing me all the bits n pieces that need to be looked at, if cant push 100 its not right. people on this site help so much. So much respect for knowledge.

Ireeman
10th June 2015, 22:41
Me neither, I'm sure if we ever meet it will end up in a slapping fight, no fist allowed just open hand smackaroo.

2 old slow bastids, that after 1 minute of fighting, are done with fatigue and need a beer.

We can promote it on pay per view and make about 10 bucks..at least a 6 pack.

rejeanprimeau
10th June 2015, 23:30
2 old slow bastids, that after 1 minute of fighting, are done with fatigue and need a beer.

We can promote it on pay per view and make about 10 bucks..at least a 6 pack.

On a XXX channel, we might get a case of 12.

Ireeman
10th June 2015, 23:44
On a XXX channel, we might get a case of 12.

NPqhm36sjVE

Fridge
10th June 2015, 23:56
2 old slow bastids, that after 1 minute of fighting, are done with fatigue and need a beer.

We can promote it on pay per view and make about 10 bucks..at least a 6 pack.

I'd bet it would be better than the pacquiao / mayweather fight was on May2.
L O L

Ireeman
11th June 2015, 00:13
I'd bet it would be better than the pacquiao / mayweather fight was on May2.
L O L

As a additive benefit, no one would understand what we were saying as well.

In this corner...wearing the Irish Hawaiian shirt at 5' 11 and slovenly 209lbs, from Fla bye way of NH way.....Iree the beer killer MAN!

jc1753hughes
11th June 2015, 00:42
Thanks Brian and the rest of you guys, will keep calling. Just found my front head valve or guide is leaking when look in the front exhaust port. :/ Get to go through the head threads now. Got her as a running bike then i pushed her really hard so now she showing me all the bits n pieces that need to be looked at, if cant push 100 its not right. people on this site help so much. So much respect for knowledge.

I dealt with Pete a couple years ago like Brian. He knew his stuff. They kept amazing records for the seventies. You'll need to talk to someone else- they should ask the Vin # and what you would like to know. Tell them all they got. Then they turn it over to a vin specialist like pete was. He would email you the info in a week or 2. Its not something they can pull up whilst on the phone.
If you cannot pull 100 on that bike the speedos broke.

on½....
11th June 2015, 01:19
yeah was a Heath i think said. lol speedo is off by 10 runs 50 at 40. i don't much pay attench to it. Think got her to 120 felt like it. idk Now she spittin but runs so good. She just brought the front wheel up on me lil bit ago. That was a smile. Triple clutch in first cause the idiot in front of me n popped right up... can these engines run vertical? lol

simeli
11th June 2015, 06:51
Yes a Sportster can run for long distances doing a wheelie (with the right carb "Tillotson") as long as you have at least a half tank of fuel.

on½....
11th June 2015, 07:28
Nice lol noticed this keihin carb will lose the flow if let off too fast. Really don't like that, may have to look into the tillotson carb. Sounds safer. Too many times get in that position where let off and need that power right back n it just hiccups. Or maybe it is just that low flow 25$ petcock. Swear its only dribbling out. No clog.

brianbbs67
11th June 2015, 07:43
yeah was a Heath i think said. lol speedo is off by 10 runs 50 at 40. i don't much pay attench to it. Think got her to 120 felt like it. idk Now she spittin but runs so good. She just brought the front wheel up on me lil bit ago. That was a smile. Triple clutch in first cause the idiot in front of me n popped right up... can these engines run vertical? lol

Well 20% off at 50, would be 120 at 100mph. Thats about it for a stock sporty.