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otis 18th February 2010 02:53

THANX for this bro, make life alot easyer, now i have less time plaining and more time for drinking. cause up here in norther canada there no riding going on. lol but thanx alot got my coil and ign. relocation done tonight now its to the ecm

Cosmo Kramer 18th February 2010 03:15

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Originally Posted by otis (Post 2449927)
now i have less time plaining and more time for drinking.

I should say that this thread was not created for the endorsement of the increased consumption of adult beverages....but it if helps you out...I'm good with it! :D

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Originally Posted by andweagree (Post 2449211)
One of the parts guys called Harley to see if this was possible ( relocating using the new bracket), they said it was but you would need to buy a new wiring harness as well... this is what the bracket attaches to.

Hmm....I know you are just passing long info from the dealer....but I don't quite follow. I should say this isn't the first time. :laugh I thought the 2010 had a newly designed ECM also?? Secondly, the bracket should attach to the backbone not the wiring harness. So if my assumptions are right...then it would be a new ECM, bracket and I am thinking a new connector assembly to mate the old wiring harness to the new ECM (figuring it doesn't use the same connector as in 07-09')

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Originally Posted by andweagree (Post 2449211)
Has anyone done this with a fuelpak? I'm not able to get to my bike for another couple weeks and don't know whether this will work with that in the way. Thanks

My relocation was with a fuelpak....however I did some other mods that really do not relate to your situation. I am pretty sure others have done it with the Fuelpak and stock wiring but I would have to do some major searching to find it again. My suggestion is to follow the first link in Post #1...."Enightster's". Pay close attention to how he has the ECM harness/wires running between the battery and the oil tank. I would leave the two main connectors where they are at based on V&H's recommendation/installation instructions (under the V in the frame and above the battery)...run the harness like "Enightster" did to the ECM. The actual control box for the V&H unit...I would probably but under the seat.

Cosmo Kramer 10th March 2010 10:13

This is from "Howardpowered":

Thanks to Howardpowered for the heads-up on the ECM relo he did. :clap

A great alternative which utilizes a smaller battery (see link to post below for more info) and allows room for the ECM to be relocated on top of the battery. Hopefully the battery he uses will last just as long as a stocker.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/...batteryecm.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/...allbattery.jpg

http://xlforum.net/forums/s...hreadid=745427

Cosmo Kramer 10th March 2010 10:26

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Originally Posted by andweagree (Post 2449211)
One of the parts guys called Harley to see if this was possible ( relocating using the new bracket), they said it was but you would need to buy a new wiring harness as well... this is what the bracket attaches to. Since the wiring harness is $500 I'm going to say it's not worth the investment when you can do it for free. Has anyone done this with a fuelpak? I'm not able to get to my bike for another couple weeks and don't know whether this will work with that in the way. Thanks

Sorry Andweagree....I didn't see this post. This doesn't make sense. I highly doubt that the new ECM bracket is mounted to the wiring harness itself....I am 99.99% sure it is attached to the backbone above the tranny just like the 07'-09' fuse block/wiring harness holder is...although I have been wrong before even with that high confidence rating. ;) The last thing you design for is for something to hang off electrical wires....esp. a fairly heavy ECM.

However, I thought the ECM itself was redesigned for 2010 (not just the location of it). So if they say that the 07'-09' ECM wouldn't fit in the new bracket and you need the new ECM too I could understand that. Assuming this is true....as long as the wiring is the same going to the ECM for 2010...you could buy the bracket, the new ECM and the connector assembly for the new ECM and rewire to that connector if you really wanted to go that way. A lot of work....but it can be done.

Kirk the Jerk 28th March 2010 05:12

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Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer (Post 2489105)
This is from "Howardpowered":

Thanks to Howardpowered for the heads-up on the ECM relo he did. :clap

A great alternative which utilizes a smaller battery (see link to post below for more info) and allows room for the ECM to be relocated on top of the battery. Hopefully the battery he uses will last just as long as a stocker.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/...batteryecm.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/...allbattery.jpg

http://xlforum.net/forums/s...hreadid=745427

Just wanted to add my two cents to the "smaller battery" mod. I found that battery is a common replacement for the Hayabusa (GSXR1300R). Not sure which years specifically, but when I do a search, I can normally turn up 2 or t3, and one will usually be around 4.5" tall, rather than the stock 5.75". I got mine from Interstate Battery. And if you get creative with re-wiring your positive and negative cables, you can run the stock ones.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...oveBattery.jpg


Also, I've found that the ECM fits better angled upward like that, which puts plenty of room between the aluminum case of the ECM and the terminals, although, I am planning on getting some rubber for the bottom of the ECM.

Thanks to those members who already did the grunt-work on this one. :clap

Simplest relocation yet.

BgrMaine 3rd April 2010 14:00

One thing I would be aware of with the smaller battery mod is the cold cranking amps of the replacement. The stocker has 200 cca, the batteriesplus replacement I used has 225 cca. The interstate battery that Kirk used only has 175 cca. In warm weather and easy starting bikes, it's not as critical, but I've been riding to work every morning at 20-35 degrees. Everything is cold and slow to start. The more cca's the better!

Kirk the Jerk 3rd April 2010 14:17

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Originally Posted by BgrMaine (Post 2536325)
One thing I would be aware of with the smaller battery mod is the cold cranking amps of the replacement. The stocker has 200 cca, the batteriesplus replacement I used has 225 cca. The interstate battery that Kirk used only has 175 cca. In warm weather and easy starting bikes, it's not as critical, but I've been riding to work every morning at 20-35 degrees. Everything is cold and slow to start. The more cca's the better!

I would be worried about it if I lived in the Northeast, but I live in Texas, and VERY rarely do I ever ride in below freezing weather.

jeffy 3rd April 2010 21:58

i ahve purchased the 2010 ecm "bracket" and cover i havent yet tried to fit it but i will keep everyone posted. the only problem i seem to be mentally running into is where to relocate all my pc3 stuff even if i can get the ecm situation figured out.

deadman 9th April 2010 04:34

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Originally Posted by jeffy (Post 2536650)
i ahve purchased the 2010 ecm "bracket" and cover i havent yet tried to fit it but i will keep everyone posted. the only problem i seem to be mentally running into is where to relocate all my pc3 stuff even if i can get the ecm situation figured out.

do you have a part # for that bracket? I'm having some trouble finding the part #. send me a message if you know it.

Cosmo Kramer 9th April 2010 04:43

Is it the same ECM from 07'-09' and 2010 models? For some reason I thought it was different and that bracket wouldn't work for pre-2010 models.


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