The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > Frame Mount EVO Sportster Talk (1986-2003 models)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Notices

Active Threads
0 1958 XLCH? Maybe not... Help me ID this bike
Last Post: Jhbox13
Posted On: 59 Minutes Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 13
0 Pegs vs floorboards
Last Post: RandallM
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 9
0 Coulda' - Shoulda' - Woulda' - Solenoid/Bendix?
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 286
0 What did you do for your sporty Today?
Last Post: hammer6315
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 7,860
Views: 1,363,196
0 Greetings from NorCal/Nevada
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 29
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 26,739
Views: 1,551,424
0 First time HD owner
Last Post: Steve9
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 172
0 Can't install kickstand spring
Last Post: DR DICK
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 574
0 extortion
Last Post: rokytnji
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 132
Views: 8,853
3 Rear galiper bracket spec.
Last Post: DG Racing
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 164
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: sportymike02
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 52,936
Views: 8,970,567
0 Roler Rockers - Adjustable or Fixed Push Rods
Last Post: Hippysmack
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 78
0 A Reliable Engine
Last Post: wedge
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 35
Views: 1,130
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: bikeridermark
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 33,874
Views: 4,075,361
1 Hello from Cork, Ireland
Last Post: decman
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 247
0 Hot Rods, Rat Rods, and Customs.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 15 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,907
Views: 1,007,013
0 Video - We Were Wrong! Dyno Told the Truth About Airflow- Question Answered
Last Post: DK Custom
Posted On: 16 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 70
0 video & pics
Last Post: cal43
Posted On: 16 Hours Ago
Replies: 732
Views: 79,471
0 This is gonna hurt.
Last Post: cal43
Posted On: 17 Hours Ago
Replies: 9,231
Views: 2,180,644
5 Frankenstein forks- preload?
Last Post: WVDevil
Posted On: 19 Hours Ago
Replies: 37
Views: 837
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: cal43
Posted On: 20 Hours Ago
Replies: 12,698
Views: 3,063,596
0 ....1
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 21 Hours Ago
Replies: 6,305
Views: 386,212
0 Microsquirt EFI Conversion
Last Post: t120r
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 61
Views: 6,855
0 What song do you have stuck in your head?
Last Post: iNSaNeSHaNe
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 2,486
Views: 276,570
0 04 Sportster refurb and build.
Last Post: JimVonBaden
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 106
Views: 8,305
0 My XLCH/XLR Hybrid build
Last Post: brucstoudt
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 18
Views: 744
0 What did you do to your EFI Sporty today?
Last Post: Steelrain
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 4,034
Views: 860,402
0 On board voltmeter
Last Post: ZTatZAU
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 960
0 Let's See Your Iron!!!
Last Post: Ghostdog
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 2,140
Views: 1,623,761
0 Aftermarket Ironhead Seats - ID?
Last Post: ZTatZAU
Posted On: 1 Day Ago
Replies: 7
Views: 430
More...
Members Birthdays
steve yorke (64), edman (56), Hudsonator (54), kozman32 (54), R3DN3X (52), gmcsid (51), mitch (46), Txngrg87 (35), Gotenfan (32)
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12th July 2019
72 Ironhead XLH's Avatar
72 Ironhead XLH 72 Ironhead XLH is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,978
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH
Sportster/Buell Year: 72
72 Ironhead XLH has disabled reputation
Default

Why not just seal them and vent from the crankcase?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12th July 2019
mick42's Avatar
mick42 mick42 is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Accross the road from the cows.
Posts: 2,351
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200Roadster
Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1600GT
Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
Reputation: 931372
mick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steveolds View Post
@Mick42, did you need or have to remove your umbrella vales when doing this? Over on another forum they are saying to remove the umbrella valves. I see nothing about it doing a Buell/Buell swap.
Took them out when swapping the covers because there was no need to keep them in.

Last edited by mick42; 12th July 2019 at 22:27..
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12th July 2019
mick42's Avatar
mick42 mick42 is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Accross the road from the cows.
Posts: 2,351
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200Roadster
Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1600GT
Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
Reputation: 931372
mick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Can’t find the pictures that I wanted so I took this today after getting home from a road trip thru Maine.

The two valves are connected to a ‘Y’ connector that is connected to some pvc tubing and that runs along the frame under the tank.



The tube comes down to my catch can that I can empty when it gets too much puk in it. On a long hard ride the catch can will clean its self out.



I then run some tubing from my catch can up under the fender and it exits at the rear of the fender on the left side of the bike. When the bike is on the jiffy stand the hose is way over the side and if some puk drips from the end it’s not near the tire and there is no oily mist spraying over all my shiny bits while I’m riding.


Very clean

And this is my bike next to some cows across the street from its stable. Crap wrong thread.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12th July 2019
mick42's Avatar
mick42 mick42 is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Accross the road from the cows.
Posts: 2,351
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200Roadster
Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1600GT
Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
Reputation: 931372
mick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

And then I have these sitting in my extra parts bin. They are made by kuryakyn and they route the breathers up over the stock rocker covers and then you can use the same plumbing model as I have. I took these off as soon as I learned about the Buell setup.
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/401...kuni-hsr-carbs





They came with both solid mount and rubber mount head breather bolts and I think they fit under 3.3 and 4.5 gallon tanks.
You can never have enough extra stuff.

Last edited by mick42; 12th July 2019 at 23:29..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 13th July 2019
Hippysmack's Avatar
Hippysmack Hippysmack is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 8,210
Sportster/Buell Model: Xl1250S
Sportster/Buell Year: 98
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 500
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 8403395
Hippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Ok so the rockers will interchange.
The PCVs are still passing a certain amount of oil mist which gathers in the catch can.
A long hard ride gives higher air pressure which suspends what's in the catch can and sends the mist out the end of the line?


edit:
Any idea what year models of Buell rocker boxes that is?
__________________
Diagnosis begins before teardown, during and after rebuild.

In Search of Fuel, Sunshine and a Steady Idle.

Reference the XLFORUM'S Sportsterpedia
for additional technical information & advice

Last edited by Hippysmack; 13th July 2019 at 00:26..
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 13th July 2019
mick42's Avatar
mick42 mick42 is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Accross the road from the cows.
Posts: 2,351
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200Roadster
Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1600GT
Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
Reputation: 931372
mick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond reputemick42 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have XB rockers on XB heads. Not sure about XB rockers on non-XB heads.
Back to Hammer I guess but he could just use the other breather product to clean up his build and not have to buy XB rockers. They do close to the same thing by moving breather stuff to the top of the heads.

Last edited by mick42; 13th July 2019 at 02:07..
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 13th July 2019
Hippysmack's Avatar
Hippysmack Hippysmack is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 8,210
Sportster/Buell Model: Xl1250S
Sportster/Buell Year: 98
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 500
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 8403395
Hippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

OK.
I'm building this page in the Sportsterpedia for using the Buell PCV system.
I've added the pics of yours there.
Looks clean.
I'll wait to hear for sure if they interchange before adding that fact.
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/techtalk:refil05b
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 13th July 2019
Randy_rots Randy_rots is offline
Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Derby
Posts: 518
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 softail frame&NOS
Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB1250 Uly XT
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2009
Reputation: 186700
Randy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant future
Default

All of them are interchangeable (I mean they will fit). You just can't put XB or 04 up cover on pre 2003 bikes only because there's not enough space between the frame and cover on rear piece.
But if engine is out, it's no problem to fit them. Early 1986 till 1991 I think does not have breather holes, so they won't work on 1991 up models properly.
I have XR1200 heads on my XB 2008 and XB rocker boxes, no problem at all. I only had to plug breather holes.
Also not this topic but you can put XL rocker boxes on Evo BT I have done this once or twice in the past.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 13th July 2019
Hippysmack's Avatar
Hippysmack Hippysmack is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 8,210
Sportster/Buell Model: Xl1250S
Sportster/Buell Year: 98
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 500
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 8403395
Hippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Thanks.
86-90 had the breather in the cam box.
One question come to mind is if the 91-03 rocker box assembly would fit on 04 Up and Up models.
They look like they would in pics I've seen.
The catch would seem to be if the different boxes are the same height.
So likewise, I was wondering if the XB rocker box would also fit 91 Up.
But removing the engine from the frame to install the Buell box doesn't sound promising in the long run.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 13th July 2019
Randy_rots Randy_rots is offline
Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Derby
Posts: 518
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 softail frame&NOS
Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB1250 Uly XT
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2009
Reputation: 186700
Randy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant futureRandy_rots has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippysmack View Post
Thanks.
86-90 had the breather in the cam box.
One question come to mind is if the 91-03 rocker box assembly would fit on 04 Up and Up models.
They look like they would in pics I've seen.
The catch would seem to be if the different boxes are the same height.
So likewise, I was wondering if the XB rocker box would also fit 91 Up.
But removing the engine from the frame to install the Buell box doesn't sound promising in the long run.
The heights are pretty close but pre 2003 rocker boxes are 3 pieces, that's why you can install them in that tight space. XBs and 04 up XLs have 2 pieces rocker boxes and tall covers that won't go between the frame and rocker box base on the rear piece. I was looking into that and It would work but to remove engine from the frame to do that?? Hell no
Jorgen modified his ridged mount frame to get rid of that problem with his taller S&S engine and that looked promising for stock 2003 and XB rocker boxes but I have never asked him to take the measurements. He is a busy man and gets loads of questions from xlforum members on a daily bases, so I figured out I will leave him alone. Maybe he will come forward and do this for us .
But frame mods are not that easy and safe, so I would not recommend it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:22.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC