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Took the cam cover off of my 77 xlh 1000 today and noticed as i did that only one of the cams had a thrust washer on it. i looked at my clymer manual and it showed all of them having this washer. someone was in the motor before ( has s&s flywheels and connecting rods) and i was wondering if anyone would know why they wouldnt be there or if anyone has seen something like this before.
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Shims or no shims is a contentious issue. The best advice I can offer is to educate yourself and then decide if you think you need/want them.

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No thrust washers, but there are cam gear plates [AKA dog bones, figure 8s] and cam shims. Presumably you mean the shims?
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Was it only the #2 cam w/ the points that was shimmed?
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yeah iron mick it was the cam shims between the bushings and the actual cam. i dont know if its aftermarket camed or not, but i cant find any marking on the cams. and yeahchevelle its the rear cylinder intake cam, the one that drives the points
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It could be that only the one cam needed to be shimmed. You can either toss all the shims or go thru the process and set them all up to between .015 and .020 [i think that is what we agreed on]. Most agree that the spec in the FSM should not be used.
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I set mine up right around .015 mark never herd an iron so quite,if you go tighter as the manual says it means check this every season...
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The #2 cam gets a seal, so it would be the most important to keep from walking I would assume.
Same goes for the ign rotor/advance unit bolted to that cam.
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Probably gonna toss them mick the noise doesn't bother me but I wanted to make sure it wasn't overly critical. Thanks for the continued help!
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i'm,kind of surprised you went back with them at .015,timberjack.didn't you find alot of them in your oil pump,after disassembly?
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