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Old 14th March 2015
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Default Over egging the pudding? (Value Of Converted Bike In UK)

As a few of us are looking to a 1250 conversion it raises the question is it over investing in our bikes?

I'm in two minds?


I would love a little more performance from my bike but will I ever see a return on my £1000 plus investment in a big bore kit when it comes to sell? Also taking into account the insurance cost spike?

As it stands my bike is probably worth 4.5k but with a 1250 engine would it be worth 5.5?????? I dunno.......?..?? Would it be better to sell and buy a larger cc scoot?
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Only if you re-title it. Don't know about the UK but, in the states if the title says 883 that is pretty much what the sale price will be based upon. Doesn't matter if you've installed a 1250 kit or not. The other thing to keep in mind, many people will think that if you've installed a 1250 kit that, you've been racing the bike and/or beating the shit out of it.

I don't believe it will increase the value for any future sale.
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If you spend a grand on the bike you may only get back half? unless you keep it for the long term.
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For me there is no ROI for a vehicle. I'm not a used car / bike salesman or flipper. If I buy something it's what I want. If I want it I'm going to keep it, make it how I want it and enjoy it. My kids can sell it once I'm gone.

If you have regrets about your bike, buy another bike, or at least test ride some other bikes to determine if your current bike is right for you. Buying into the conversion from peer pressure is absurd, as is being concerned about depreciation and ROI. I'm not sure about overseas but insurance for a >1000 cc here is $3/mo more, $21 vs. $18. I'm also a big fan of what the .gov doesn't know, isn't going to hurt them.

If anything, how do you value the ROI and depreciation in smiles per mile?

I paid $3k for mine and within two gear shifts knew it was well worth the investment. I may have $4k in it once it's completely how I like it, again, well worth the money in stress relief and enjoyment. I have back issues, currently eating Aleve thanks to some awkward positioning at work the other day so I don't expect to ride forever but I will ride when I can and even if it's only a blast around the neighborhood and I need help getting off the bike, I'm going to do it.

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Conversions don't normally get the same price as a standard 1200. If you have the heads as well then it should be the same as a factory 1200 on price but some potential customers will still be shy of it just from fear of the unknown.
If you convert to ride then its worth the money, as a investment then as jarback said about half the money if your lucky.
An older sportster 883 is more easily converted by selling it and buying the 1200 of the same age.
I have just seen a 6000 mile 2001 1200s up for sale at £3,800 looking V clean.
When some one looks at that or my 30 odd thousand mile 03 883r with what would cost £7000 to build again they would probably choose the standard.
Its an investment in Fun. Im now off to check my dividends.
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no reason not to do what most of us do and up it to 1200 with harley 'dished' 10:1 pistons - having stage 1'ed it first of course - by either getting new cylinders or having the existing ones bored out and using the origional heads. not a major price and you can do it yourself but no as much power are the full kit you were suggesting - goes up from about 58 to about 65 to 70ish. dont forget to up the final drive pully from 28 (883) to 30 (1200)
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Black eagle gives good advice.
I would save the £70 and keep the standard 883 puley unless you are on motiorways most of the time. After the best part 50 thousand on the 1200 pulley I have gone back to the the old one.
Sprightly good fun and an unexpected slight beterment inMPG about 2 or 3 a gallon but it all helps.
the only down side is its a little more buzzy at 80+
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