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Interesting. I had been looking at those with my 883/90" in mind. I hadn't bothered looking at the "fitment" section because I presumed that it wouldn't fit the earlier EFI bikes. But, now I see that the 1200N and 883N are listed for the early EFI bikes. I would guess the difference between a 1200N/883N and the other early EFI bikes might be the wiring for the rear lights. That's obviously pretty easy to work around.

There's certainly plenty of room there for the ECM in this setup, but I don't see any obvious why it would mount either.

I suspect I'll end up ordering on sooner or later...
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Interesting, those turn signals in the OP (and maybe what they are showing in this kit) are from the new Roadster.

I thought I had a better shot, guess I took it off the cloud:



Anyway the Roadster CX is not compatible with the Harley detachables presumably because of those signals.

But maybe it would work with the current turn signal mount?
Thanks Kev, that makes some sense to me. The Roadster CX doesn't have fender covers which the turn signals on the Nightster and Iron (and probably other models I'm not as familiar with) use as a locator; it kind of locks them into position along with a single double-threaded screw to fasten them in place. From memory the wiring threaded through the second fender hole and it was seated into the strut cover which stopped it from rotating on the one screw.

Without the covers they must have devised a different indicator stem to fasten to the strut itself. I'm guessing they've needed to use both existing fender holes with their lock nuts (the rear-most detachable point and the usual turn signal fastening point) with two screws to give it lateral stability. I wonder if it would be as easy as moving it back to the original signal hole, and drilling an additional hole in the strut closer to the front and adding a third threaded clip/lock nut??

Has anyone found the exploded parts diagrams online for the Roadster CX yet? Think I'll take a closer look at my local dealership's CX again tomorrow.

Below is the turn signal setup for the nightster. A pic might make what I'm trying to describe make sense.
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Yup, very familiar with the rear turn signal setup on the XL. Over the years I've relocated like a half dozen lol.

IIRC there'd be no need to drill the strut as the holes are already there, no?

But remember the detachables expect the strut cover to be in place, and without it the width changes which could be a slight factor for something like sideplates or a luggage rack.

I wonder if you could chop the strut cover neatly to continue to use it at the rear in such a way that it blended nice but continued to provide the mounting point for the stalk?

Alternately replace the stalk or turn signal with something that uses a single mounting point.

Some of the OEM signal replacement kits adapt the OEM signals for mounting on a single hollow bar with threaded ends for the signals. The wiring is run internally.

Cut that bar in half and cut threads on the inner end. Run that through the strut at whatever strut hole won't interfere with the detachables and secure with locknuts.

Viola, you're probably good to go.

Maybe worst case you space the detachable mounts out slightly for the width.
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I would be interested as well. It hasn't even hit the Canadian HD website so I can't even price it so far.
No, it hasn't here either. But I can see the US price for the unfinished one and can guesstimate how many months saving it's going to take (if the Chinese don't come to my rescue). At this point a Xmas gift to myself is looking good

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Interesting. I had been looking at those with my 883/90" in mind. I hadn't bothered looking at the "fitment" section because I presumed that it wouldn't fit the earlier EFI bikes. But, now I see that the 1200N and 883N are listed for the early EFI bikes. I would guess the difference between a 1200N/883N and the other early EFI bikes might be the wiring for the rear lights. That's obviously pretty easy to work around.

There's certainly plenty of room there for the ECM in this setup, but I don't see any obvious why it would mount either.

I suspect I'll end up ordering on sooner or later...
Sooner would be good
Then you could answer / solve the fitment problems for the rest of us.
I'm hoping the solo rack will clear it in hope that I'll still be able to use my box for my camera and tripod on the odd ocassion I might take Nyx. This is the overlaid image. I don't like my chances
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Yup, very familiar with the rear turn signal setup on the XL. Over the years I've relocated like a half dozen lol.

IIRC there'd be no need to drill the strut as the holes are already there, no?

But remember the detachables expect the strut cover to be in place, and without it the width changes which could be a slight factor for something like sideplates or a luggage rack.

I wonder if you could chop the strut cover neatly to continue to use it at the rear in such a way that it blended nice but continued to provide the mounting point for the stalk?

Alternately replace the stalk or turn signal with something that uses a single mounting point.

Some of the OEM signal replacement kits adapt the OEM signals for mounting on a single hollow bar with threaded ends for the signals. The wiring is run internally.

Cut that bar in half and cut threads on the inner end. Run that through the strut at whatever strut hole won't interfere with the detachables and secure with locknuts.

Viola, you're probably good to go.

Maybe worst case you space the detachable mounts out slightly for the width.

I was thinking the "spacers theory" for the detachables without the cover. I'm guessing the existing fender strut holes don't align. It could never be that easy lol. And yes, aftermarket LED replacements would likely solve it. Those flexible strips would be a tidy solution, but it would give our cops another reason to help relieve me of my money. And I'm still not convinced they are as visible to other motorists as the typical setup.

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Then you could answer / solve the fitment problems for the rest of us.
I'm hoping the solo rack will clear it in hope that I'll still be able to use my box for my camera and tripod on the odd ocassion I might take Nyx. This is the overlaid image. I don't like my chances
Since you've twisted my arm, I ordered one today. I guess we'll find out.

Because of the different taillight and license plate configurations required throughout the world I wonder if they might only offer this domestically?

It will be interesting to see if my luggage rack fits over this fender. I have my doubts and since I have the 1200R, I'm not sure I care that much. But, it wouldn't take much for a fabricator to take some removable sissy bar side-plates and add some metal to make a luggage rack any height required. Or, at least in my head that works out quite easily.
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Since you've twisted my arm, I ordered one today. I guess we'll find out.
It'll probably arrive before your axle
But, hey, thanks for being the guinea pig (hope that translates).

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Because of the different taillight and license plate configurations required throughout the world I wonder if they might only offer this domestically?
I think it is just taking time, as usual, as they have this statement on the fitment page:
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It will be interesting to see if my luggage rack fits over this fender. I have my doubts and since I have the 1200R, I'm not sure I care that much. But, it wouldn't take much for a fabricator to take some removable sissy bar side-plates and add some metal to make a luggage rack any height required. Or, at least in my head that works out quite easily.
I have doubts too. But will certainly be interested to hear what you find out with it.
Hopefully you'll get the other end sorted soon too so you can try out and report on the comfort level of the seat as well
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