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6061 aluminum would be more than enough
do you have a engineering degree ?
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Im all for people making parts, but any of those options I still don't see being made in the $200 range.
You could make it for that easy.

BUT the problem is that a business is about 30% making parts and 70% paying rent, doing bookkeeping, paying the state, paying employees and the employer contributions, paying the feds, paying the insurance companies, keeping track of all of this, paying paying paying.

Making the parts is the least of it

6061 reinforced in the weak areas would be better. Steel rusts and it weighs more and there's no advantage to it in this case.
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boy "O" boy you said a mouthful there mr. bare.
they tax you on everything, material to tools (even down to screw drivers) toward the end when my father's macular degeneration got too bad, we had to go to hobbiest as the taxes were terrible. on my line of guitars, i only sold drop ship, out of state so i did not have to fool with them.
then there is the write off issues, take it all or over time, in the end, they still will tax you or force you to upgrade to get more write off's.
i agree, the t60 aluminum would be the ticket, makes excellent steel guitar frames.
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Barefoot, I agree 100% with the overhead. But just the time spent on the CMM scanning the item would quickly add up. Then reinforce design time, material cost, machine time ect. Aside from the obvious overhead, unless its done out of labor of love, I just see $200 as pretty cheap. If he can do it, excellant, i commend him on his efforts. And like I said, I have work for his shop if all his prices are similar. Just commenting on the $200 venture. If he goes through the trouble, for $200 Ill buy one just to keep the spirit of innovation alive.
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For your primary side clutch cable models it’s a fairly simple - bandsaw contour, drill/ream/bush, drill/tap, polish, turn and mill standoffs for 23 tooth sprocket clearances, assemble and final fit. 1/2” 6061 does the job just fine. 3/8” would be ok too.



This could be. $200 item from an indi/home shop. If you made multiples per setup.


For right side cable models it gets more expensive with moving parts etc.


XL Type...Copied in 1/2” aluminum from original made in 1/4” mild steel by Arlen Ness in ‘79/‘80.




K-Model Type...My design to clear different KHK exhaust location.



Needless to say these would go for closer to $400 and up.

I used to sell these covers on EBay when I was bouncing between machining jobs, ‘01>’04.

Tool Making was my trade for 30+ years and I don’t regret a minute of it. My regards on choosing a machining career. We’re a vanishing breed.
Start collecting stuff for your home shop right away.

This will keep me busy at home when I retire from the refinery next year...




If you decide to do this I wish you success. Sprocket covers helped get me through some real tuff times when machining jobs kept going offshore.
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impressive parts,Tim.similar to XR-750 acuation.
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If you use the reinforcing bracket H/D installed IF yours broke under warrenty you should never need another..
My OEM unit lasted 200,000 miles of mostly city, back and forth to work, grocery store, school, beach etc....kick starting at least 40 times a week for 30 years.....
make one from aluminum like the 78 and 79 and you should be done....
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Just commenting on the $200 venture.
Yeah, I'm kinda out of date ... someone tried to sell me a $9 hot dog a couple years ago and I 'bout shit my drawers. That "qantitative easing" schtick didn't do any real people much good.

What I'd like to see is, you know the 70 cam covers ? they're my favorite. But the fins look stupid where they hit the kicker cover. I'd love to see some cast kick covers that continued the fins then ended them in an arc like on the primary side. Or even just tapered them off ... anything but that abrupt clonk where the two covers meet.

You could do those for $200 each, but would have to sell direct under the table and you'd need to make more than a couple to justify the pattern cost.

Unless casting prices have skyrocketed also, which is more'n likely. Shoot, cain't do nuthin these days, it all costs too much

Kinda jealous of you Tim, that was a smart move. You can diddle away happily until the cows come home, and make more than social security out there in the garage, without no one knowing any better
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