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Well suspicions are indeed confirmed. My XR of 9 years was out of petrol - yellow light for a good 18 miles. Tried filling up at a local Esso but they were out of Super Unleaded (effectively E0) - in desperation had to fill with E10. Rode for 8 miles home. Now won't start 5 days later!

Have drained off about a gallon and a half and replaced with E0 from the local Power Petroleum station. Cranked engine for about 10 seconds. Nothing! Checked side-stand switch and all the usual's. Cranked again spluttered.

This bike has been on the button all its life. Seriously considering taking the tank off before I do any more damage.

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You might try adding octane booster -

There's a good lesson here. Don't fill up with lo-octane - but only put in enough fuel to get you to the next station with the good stuff - then fill up. By putting in only a bit, you are mixing it with the good stuff already in your tank, so the less low-octane you add, the better the overall mix will be.

I've had to do that a couple times --- After I also learned my lesson when I filled up with lo-octane and paid the price of crappy engine performance...

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Yeah, but we were in the middle of a communist media induced frenzy! And I was running on fumes. Result would have been the same 5 litres or 15 litres. There were no other stations open until today. I'm searching XL Forum for how to remove the tank.....
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Here's some info on E10.
https://bikerrated.com/bikes/running...compatibility/

I prefer E5 myself but my bike ('92) runs without problems on E10. The reason I prefer E5 is that there is 5 or even no percentage of alcohol in it. Alcohol is bad for rubber seals, hoses and aluminum.
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Doesn't sound like E10 is the cause of your problems. Even E10 won't hurt anything in 5 days. Maybe the "communists" have sabotaged some other system on your bike?

We have E10 gas here in California for at least 10 years now, and I fill up with it all the time, 1991 with 1250 engine. Never had an issue starting my bike. Perhaps "pilot error" in starting your bike? Too much or too little enrichener, horsing the throttle before starting, etc.

I doubt it's the E10, but if you believe in "communists" then you'll believe anything it seems. Good luck.

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All three of my Sporties will run on lower octane, not run the best but run. The only issue I’ve had is bad gas, waterlogged. Adding dry gas will help but best to dump and start over.
“Sportsterpedia “ will help if you don’t have a Factory Service Manual. You don’t mention which bike, I’m guessing the XR?
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My last Honda GL500 would get like that if it sat for a month or so with E10. The seal on the gas cap didn't work so well and it appears the temperature cycling in the garage day after day was sufficient to generate enough moisture to induce drop-out of the ethanol. hat in turn, led to water making its way to the float bowls. On that bike, I could easily drain the float bowls so I'd just grab a screwdriver and have at it. If I didn't drain the watery crud out first, it took a long time to get it started. Maybe as much as 30 seconds cranking. And it would sputter, run on one cylinder etc. If I drained them first, "on the button" as you say over there.

I expect if you had panic buying, you got the dregs at the bottom of the in-ground tank. Drain the gas and get a sample off the bottom in a glass jar to verify that it's water.

I expect with fresh gas (of any sort) it'll start right up.
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"At the time of writing, there is no requirement for ethanol to be included in super unleaded (97/99) grade petrol, so if you're driving a cherished older vehicle (or putting one into long term car storage), consider a switch to the UK's only ethanol-free fuels, Esso Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97 and Synergy Supreme+ 99." - 29 Mar 2021
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No Problem with my 94 Sporty with E10, before the winterbrake I will fill the tank with superior fuel 102 oktane without alkohol and drain the carburator.
On my long gone Honda Dominator the trick was to get your carburator empty on every longer stand and get fresh fuel from the tank to get it startet.
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