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steady 50mph cruise - 4th gear or 5th?
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steady 50mph cruise - 4th gear or 5th?
I have a modified 1200 engine (80hp/80tq)...

5th gear only comes into play when I'm doing a steady 65 or more...

4th gear plays well from 40-65 if I'm cruising on a relatively level roadway... 3rd gear only comes into play for hilly terrain below 50 or severe curves - Or when trying to keep the speed down thru 35mph country town zones...

I love riding in the power band - Both for acceleration & engine braking...

I don't ride long distances enough to care one wit about fuel mileage, except to be able to stop for gas before I have to ride more sedately...

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Perhaps change the countershaft pulley to an 883 piece.
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I'm about 185 on an XL1200S Stage 1. I usually stay in 4th until about 60or65 depending on traffic conditions. If I'm on a group ride and we're doing 50-65 on the superslabs I'll run in 5th. Otherwise 4th gear.

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My 2001 XL1200S likes 4th for that range. RPMs just right as IXL2Relax said.
Too many riders keep the RPMs too low in my opnion.
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Usually the bike will tell you if it’s happy, we have to learn how to listen to it. I like the feel and response when the bike isn’t lugged. Fourth gear for me as well. And as a side note, if mileage is a concern, Eric Buell found that 3,500 r.p.m. Was the most economical engine speed.
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super + 1 mr. paul
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a lot has to do with the build
i can steady state 45>50 mph in fifth all day long if i do not need to make rapid throttle adjustments. i also run int'l gearing, aka, 55 toothed rear.
my engine is not stock either.
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Usually the bike will tell you if it’s happy, we have to learn how to listen to it. I like the feel and response when the bike isn’t lugged. Fourth gear for me as well. And as a side note, if mileage is a concern, Eric Buell found that 3,500 r.p.m. Was the most economical engine speed.
it doesn't feel like it's lugging in 5th, has response when I give it just a little gas.
I was just wondering if the rpm's were unnecessarily high in 4th...
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Try giving it a lot of throttle at 50 in 5th. You won't like the results of that experiment. Neither will the bike. 50 mph in 5th is borderline lugging on a 1200. I don't use 5th until I know I'll be running at least 65 for miles. I treat 5th as an over-drive. Mileage is about the same whether I'm running 65 to 75 in 5th, on the highway, or 50 to 60 in 4th in the hills & curves of the back roads.
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going back to mr. paul, that mid range speed is a common range for most engines to operate since VE is best, remember the olden days when cars ran that rpm as a norm. of course back when engines were lower in HP and weighed double so mfg's put the engine in the sweet spot.
my 1200 runs 2200 rpm at that speed, and yes, a snap of throttle is not well tolerated but a gentle roll on is no issue.
if i baby it and use the int'l gearing i can easily squeeze 60 mpg but at the same token, run it at 4500 rpm and get 28 mpg. it likes to suck out of that 200 main so the trick is not to get there, yea right!!! of course, wind resistance is pretty high running 100+
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