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Yawn........Iowa, mask free.....


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Had both Pfizer shots. Not even a red spot where the needles went. Neighbor had both n down for 3 days on each one....everybodys different. I'm still masking up. On the upside the pool hall reopened so we can get back to BCA league shoot. Been almost a year! Shot for couple hours last night, by the end wasnt doing too badly
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Seriously? So living in the EU means you're no longer able to travel if you don't have a proof of being vaccinated? Nothing to do if you want or do not want a vaccin, that should be someone's own choice. This is something haven't seen since WWII in the EU. A freedom under condition.

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I have a health book that show all the vaccines I ever got, requested when traveling.

I don't know what's the big deal.

I know some people believe that vaccine can be bad but, some sickness were eradicated with vaccination.

I'm waiting for my vaccine and the sooner I get it, the best for me.

Before the life expectancy for mankind was about fifty years now it's over 75 years. This new technologies are now able to heal cancer.

If you rather believe charlatans then die younger.

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“Stretching arms up overhead” ahhhhhh still a free man here in the Midwest to make my own choices about the rona-19, pandemic and scamdemic.


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I have a health book that show all the vaccines I ever got, requested when traveling.

I don't know what's the big deal.

I know some people believe that vaccine can be bad but, some sickness were eradicated with vaccination.

I'm waiting for my vaccine and the sooner I get it, the best for me.

Before the life expectancy for mankind was about fifty years now it's over 75 years. This new technologies are now able to heal cancer.

If you rather believe charlatans then die younger.
No, I don't believe charlatans either and I'm also not saying that I'm against or for vaccination. That's why I wrote: "Nothing to do if you want or do not want a vaccin, that should be someone's own choice." With this you seem to have no choice.

This is a decision that goes against the Universal Human Rights and Constitution.
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No, I don't believe charlatans either and I'm also not saying that I'm against or for vaccination. That's why I wrote: "Nothing to do if you want or do not want a vaccin, that should be someone's own choice." With this you seem to have no choice.

This is a decision that goes against the Universal Human Rights and Constitution.
OK, so lets say you happen to have been exposed to a nuclear reactor explosion and you are glowing like an incandescent light bulb. Is it your right to walk around in society poisoning us all?

When we discuss rights, it's important to remember that yes, you do have rights, but the rest of us also have rights. Where do you personally draw the line?

Like, you have the right to hunt. Do you have the right to shoot a buck in a Macey's department store full of people?

You have the right to practice any religion, regardless of opinions of others. Does that right extend to killing off everyone who is not part of your personal cult?

Rights are always limited to the point that they interfere with the rights that others enjoy.
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OK, so lets say you happen to have been exposed to a nuclear reactor explosion and you are glowing like an incandescent light bulb. Is it your right to walk around in society poisoning us all?

When we discuss rights, it's important to remember that yes, you do have rights, but the rest of us also have rights. Where do you personally draw the line?
There are enough reasons for people. Well, one could draw a line to refuse to take a vaccine which experimental(!) fase ends in 2023 (Pfizer) or maybe because of religious reasons or other personal reasons? If some people don't want it what are you gonna do about it? Hunt them down, tie em up and force the vaccin in their body? We had those types here 81 years ago and again from 7 october 1949 up and until 3 october 1990. No thanks.

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Like, you have the right to hunt. Do you have the right to shoot a buck in a Macey's department store full of people?

You have the right to practice any religion, regardless of opinions of others. Does that right extend to killing off everyone who is not part of your personal cult?

Rights are always limited to the point that they interfere with the rights that others enjoy.
I know what you mean and I can even agree with you, but that's not the point The point is that no one on this Earth can force you to do something against your will. That's what is enshrined in human rights. What they're doing now is exclude people crossing country borders or even go to a bar or restaurant because they don't want to do what the EU wants. That's abuse of their political power. "You don't want it? Fine, but now you can't travel"
If I take a vaccination it will be voluntarily and well thought over and not because some unchosen EU bitch forces me.
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