The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > EFI Sportster Motorcycle Talk (2007 and up)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

EFI Sportster Motorcycle Talk (2007 and up) For 2007 and above Sportsters

Active Threads
0 starter block off plate
Last Post: Scott
Posted On: 1 Minute Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 1
4 What will 10 cents buy?
Last Post: Davo_137
Posted On: 12 Minutes Ago
Replies: 73
Views: 20,602
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: trainman
Posted On: 16 Minutes Ago
Replies: 9,186
Views: 754,330
14 Iconic Parts that say it's a Harley!
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 24 Minutes Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 288
0 Kr krtt xlr-tt xr...
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 37 Minutes Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 299
0 Wheel Bearings Seals Changed?
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 37 Minutes Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 258
0 Fork oil
Last Post: shanneba
Posted On: 38 Minutes Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 213
0 New England 2018
Last Post: mick42
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 317
Views: 18,460
0 2016+ Roadster wheel PN
Last Post: Bluto
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 5,766
0 Really Hard to start XL1200 C
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 43
0 What are you drinking tonight?
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,923
Views: 115,003
0 A Day in the Life...
Last Post: DK Custom
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 599
Views: 58,654
0 Lets see your off season builds
Last Post: cycowrencher
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,171
Views: 127,738
0 SERIOUS 1275 engine issues!! PLEASE HELP!!
Last Post: Randy_rots
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 27
Views: 352
0 Poll for the legalization of cannabis
Last Post: ed_in_az
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 450
Views: 56,313
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 42,229
Views: 6,543,260
0 77 kicker engagement issues
Last Post: brucstoudt
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 347
0 Food porn
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 990
Views: 142,091
0 "The Blues" thread!
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 861
Views: 71,204
0 2019 East Coast Meet and Greet
Last Post: pdavis5160
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 127
3 Making my own exhaust gaskets?
Last Post: Toejam503
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 17
Views: 440
0 Iree's jukbox joint
Last Post: rokytnji
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,907
Views: 284,544
0 95 1200 Sportster >>> roadworthy
Last Post: JackFrost71
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 15
Views: 616
0 Mounting saddlebags 85 Sportster
Last Post: Matt397
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 267
0 What S&S card for 04 XL1200C
Last Post: spitfirechopper
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 320
0 You asked for it! "The Tess' Coffee Thread"
Last Post: decman
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 10,414
Views: 747,778
0 paging @sportsterdoc!! (Carb Problems)
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 30
Views: 1,158
0 Guzzi V7
Last Post: Bone
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 20
Views: 473
0 Buell to Sportster wiring graft
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 158
0 over drive
Last Post: Hippysmack
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 190
More...
Members Birthdays
kartooo (65), shotgun willy (49), jace (43), crosscut (41), 99fireredls1 (38)
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 18th February 2010
otis otis is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5
Sportster/Buell Model: Nightster
Sportster/Buell Year: 09
Reputation: 10
otis is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

THANX for this bro, make life alot easyer, now i have less time plaining and more time for drinking. cause up here in norther canada there no riding going on. lol but thanx alot got my coil and ign. relocation done tonight now its to the ecm
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 18th February 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 357336
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by otis View Post
now i have less time plaining and more time for drinking.
I should say that this thread was not created for the endorsement of the increased consumption of adult beverages....but it if helps you out...I'm good with it!

Quote:
Originally Posted by andweagree View Post
One of the parts guys called Harley to see if this was possible ( relocating using the new bracket), they said it was but you would need to buy a new wiring harness as well... this is what the bracket attaches to.
Hmm....I know you are just passing long info from the dealer....but I don't quite follow. I should say this isn't the first time. I thought the 2010 had a newly designed ECM also?? Secondly, the bracket should attach to the backbone not the wiring harness. So if my assumptions are right...then it would be a new ECM, bracket and I am thinking a new connector assembly to mate the old wiring harness to the new ECM (figuring it doesn't use the same connector as in 07-09')

Quote:
Originally Posted by andweagree View Post
Has anyone done this with a fuelpak? I'm not able to get to my bike for another couple weeks and don't know whether this will work with that in the way. Thanks
My relocation was with a fuelpak....however I did some other mods that really do not relate to your situation. I am pretty sure others have done it with the Fuelpak and stock wiring but I would have to do some major searching to find it again. My suggestion is to follow the first link in Post #1...."Enightster's". Pay close attention to how he has the ECM harness/wires running between the battery and the oil tank. I would leave the two main connectors where they are at based on V&H's recommendation/installation instructions (under the V in the frame and above the battery)...run the harness like "Enightster" did to the ECM. The actual control box for the V&H unit...I would probably but under the seat.
__________________
Cosmo

If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front of them!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10th March 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 357336
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

This is from "Howardpowered":

Thanks to Howardpowered for the heads-up on the ECM relo he did.

A great alternative which utilizes a smaller battery (see link to post below for more info) and allows room for the ECM to be relocated on top of the battery. Hopefully the battery he uses will last just as long as a stocker.





http://xlforum.net/forums/s...hreadid=745427
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10th March 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 357336
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andweagree View Post
One of the parts guys called Harley to see if this was possible ( relocating using the new bracket), they said it was but you would need to buy a new wiring harness as well... this is what the bracket attaches to. Since the wiring harness is $500 I'm going to say it's not worth the investment when you can do it for free. Has anyone done this with a fuelpak? I'm not able to get to my bike for another couple weeks and don't know whether this will work with that in the way. Thanks
Sorry Andweagree....I didn't see this post. This doesn't make sense. I highly doubt that the new ECM bracket is mounted to the wiring harness itself....I am 99.99% sure it is attached to the backbone above the tranny just like the 07'-09' fuse block/wiring harness holder is...although I have been wrong before even with that high confidence rating. The last thing you design for is for something to hang off electrical wires....esp. a fairly heavy ECM.

However, I thought the ECM itself was redesigned for 2010 (not just the location of it). So if they say that the 07'-09' ECM wouldn't fit in the new bracket and you need the new ECM too I could understand that. Assuming this is true....as long as the wiring is the same going to the ECM for 2010...you could buy the bracket, the new ECM and the connector assembly for the new ECM and rewire to that connector if you really wanted to go that way. A lot of work....but it can be done.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 28th March 2010
Kirk the Jerk Kirk the Jerk is offline
Senior Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,962
Sportster/Buell Model: None
Sportster/Buell Year: None
Reputation: 16607
Kirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
This is from "Howardpowered":

Thanks to Howardpowered for the heads-up on the ECM relo he did.

A great alternative which utilizes a smaller battery (see link to post below for more info) and allows room for the ECM to be relocated on top of the battery. Hopefully the battery he uses will last just as long as a stocker.





http://xlforum.net/forums/s...hreadid=745427
Just wanted to add my two cents to the "smaller battery" mod. I found that battery is a common replacement for the Hayabusa (GSXR1300R). Not sure which years specifically, but when I do a search, I can normally turn up 2 or t3, and one will usually be around 4.5" tall, rather than the stock 5.75". I got mine from Interstate Battery. And if you get creative with re-wiring your positive and negative cables, you can run the stock ones.




Also, I've found that the ECM fits better angled upward like that, which puts plenty of room between the aluminum case of the ECM and the terminals, although, I am planning on getting some rubber for the bottom of the ECM.

Thanks to those members who already did the grunt-work on this one.

Simplest relocation yet.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 3rd April 2010
BgrMaine's Avatar
BgrMaine BgrMaine is offline
Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northeast
Posts: 316
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 233
BgrMaine is on a distinguished roadBgrMaine is on a distinguished roadBgrMaine is on a distinguished road
Default

One thing I would be aware of with the smaller battery mod is the cold cranking amps of the replacement. The stocker has 200 cca, the batteriesplus replacement I used has 225 cca. The interstate battery that Kirk used only has 175 cca. In warm weather and easy starting bikes, it's not as critical, but I've been riding to work every morning at 20-35 degrees. Everything is cold and slow to start. The more cca's the better!
__________________
2007 XL1200R
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 3rd April 2010
Kirk the Jerk Kirk the Jerk is offline
Senior Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,962
Sportster/Buell Model: None
Sportster/Buell Year: None
Reputation: 16607
Kirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to allKirk the Jerk is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BgrMaine View Post
One thing I would be aware of with the smaller battery mod is the cold cranking amps of the replacement. The stocker has 200 cca, the batteriesplus replacement I used has 225 cca. The interstate battery that Kirk used only has 175 cca. In warm weather and easy starting bikes, it's not as critical, but I've been riding to work every morning at 20-35 degrees. Everything is cold and slow to start. The more cca's the better!
I would be worried about it if I lived in the Northeast, but I live in Texas, and VERY rarely do I ever ride in below freezing weather.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #28  
Old 3rd April 2010
jeffy jeffy is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 51
Reputation: 10
jeffy is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

i ahve purchased the 2010 ecm "bracket" and cover i havent yet tried to fit it but i will keep everyone posted. the only problem i seem to be mentally running into is where to relocate all my pc3 stuff even if i can get the ecm situation figured out.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 9th April 2010
deadman's Avatar
deadman deadman is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North Kansas City
Posts: 26
Sportster/Buell Model: 883XL
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 10
deadman is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffy View Post
i ahve purchased the 2010 ecm "bracket" and cover i havent yet tried to fit it but i will keep everyone posted. the only problem i seem to be mentally running into is where to relocate all my pc3 stuff even if i can get the ecm situation figured out.
do you have a part # for that bracket? I'm having some trouble finding the part #. send me a message if you know it.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 9th April 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 357336
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Is it the same ECM from 07'-09' and 2010 models? For some reason I thought it was different and that bracket wouldn't work for pre-2010 models.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:55.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC