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I just think of those crusty ol' HD hands cobbling together these hellish machines, guys that had probably been working there for decades, probably each with their own set of stamps--- "Hey anybody got a '6'? I left mine in the driveway..."
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Any possibility that say a batch of cases were stamped w/ the year and model just waiting to be assigned engine s/n?
Then the next guy to stamp the s/n grabs a block of slightly different stamps and stamps the last 4 or 5 digits?


Note: Just saw your reply doodah, you got there before me.

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Yeah the case for year and month were used until gone so a 67 could have 66 case and so on. As far as I know( which isn't far sometimes), vin stamp at same spot. Just sometimes the stamp for the year and model could have 2, 3 digits in the same die. Does it all at once ie 62 or 62x all in one hit of the hammer. The other number were mostly one at a time and were subject to which die the guy on the line had available. Production lines don't stop, for the most part, for font issues. Muddies the water a bit huh? At. Least hd did limit the number of fonts. The dealers on the other hand...
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here is a pic of a vin of a 62 that i looked at not too long ago. kinda wierd, see the 2 different style of 6's ??

This vin is a prime example looks like first 2 maybe four numbers stamp at once. Or maybe two 2 digit stamps?
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Great example of what to look for.
Actually all the fonts on the pad between the cyls are wrong.
They all have serifs on them and the factory ones are very plain hence Sans Serif.
when I bought the bike the PO had the UVIP (Used Vehicle Information Pack) as it is required for the sale of a used vehicle in Ontario. There were only a couple of names on it (the information wasn't available back far enough--it was a new program at that time).

I didn't give the numbers any thought. I had no knowledge of these bikes at all at the time. The local dealer noticed the numbers as I was putting it together (I was in weekly with questions and he knew his IronHeads) and he checked the UVIP I was given and had me change the ownership over before investing further in the bike. I never questioned his advice..he showed me some cases for comparison but didn't offer any expanation. Once that was over and the bike was in my name i never thought about it again...until I started reading in this forum.

I have often wondered about the history of the bike; the stories. I thought it would be interesting to go back and talk to some POs...get some answers to the little things like these numbers on the cases.

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What I mean by replacement cases.... Someone buys the bike new and a couple of years later, while tacking 7 grand suddenly sends the tranny to lunch and blows both the left and right cases. Takes his trashed bike to the dealer to be repaired, the dealer orders another set of cases from the factory. The only numbers that were stamped on these cases would be the belly numbers (hence the newer year for the cases than for the actual bike) . The dealer rebuilds the bike and stamps the same VIN onto the cases.
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This vin is a prime example looks like first 2 maybe four numbers stamp at once. Or maybe two 2 digit stamps?
Those numbers are bogus and it's a pretty bad number job. you can plainly see where the nose of a die grinder rotory file went around the number block as they were reshaping it after welding.

Number fonts were closely controlled inside the factory-guys didn't just bring their own or use what they felt like.

straight back 6"s and 9's should never be found mixed with curved backs.

Belly numbers indicate the actual machining date of the cases so it's not unusual to find -66 belly numbers on -67 serial number bikes because of production change over dates,i.e. -67 bikes built in the fall of '66.

serial numbers were added after engine assembly. Sometimes the surest thing to look at is the number block not the number.
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verrrry inter-resting....
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Chevelle,

What I mean by replacement cases.... Someone buys the bike new and a couple of years later, while tacking 7 grand suddenly sends the tranny to lunch and blows both the left and right cases. Takes his trashed bike to the dealer to be repaired, the dealer orders another set of cases from the factory. The only numbers that were stamped on these cases would be the belly numbers (hence the newer year for the cases than for the actual bike) . The dealer rebuilds the bike and stamps the same VIN onto the cases.
I understand about the replacement cases.
What I have read though, is only the factory stamped the cases after you sent your originals (blown ones) back to them.
I don't believe any dealers would be authorized to stamp the S/N's.
So if the factory stamped the replacement cases w/ the original S/N's they would have correct numbers using correct stamps, having correct fonts.
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I understand about the replacement cases.
What I have read though, is only the factory stamped the cases after you sent your originals (blown ones) back to them.
I don't believe any dealers would be authorized to stamp the S/N's.
So if the factory stamped the replacement cases w/ the original S/N's they would have correct numbers using correct stamps, having correct fonts.
That is correct in my experience Chevelle. I blew the primary compartment off my -69 in early -70 when the primary chain broke and the cases had to be sent in to the factory by a dealer to receive a new case half and it came with the numbers stamped from the factory.
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That is correct in my experience Chevelle. I blew the primary compartment off my -69 in early -70 when the primary chain broke and the cases had to be sent in to the factory by a dealer to receive a new case half and it came with the numbers stamped from the factory.
Ok, great to know someone who had actual factual experience w/ this.
Do you remember if you received the cases w/ the belly # stamped or blank?
Or were they earlier belly #'s?
Did they stamp the belly # at the same time as the S/N, and did it match the original broken case?
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