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Well I had a Dyna twin cam, had the belt from new & never broke it, but I was riding the bike 1,100 KM to drag race in screaming eagle Harley, that was the away racing the home track was 10km away. was worried if I broke a belt big job to replace on the Dyna .
now moved up to the real thing! 2003 XLH 88" still on original belt & 16,000km with the 88" motor still never broke the belt, I know not riding hard enough, but am enjoying every minute!! reason I'll keep the belt is less vibration, I can also cary spare belt if on a longer run.
if you think you can't ride on dirt or over rocks with belt drive. check out youtube Million Dollar Bogan riding a Harley in Outback Australia ( he put a rock through the sump on a new road king, put a 2" inch hole in it ( the sump ) oil everywhere, but belt not broken yet. I'm not a friend of his & don't know him at all, just mentioning this. but like others have said a rock between belt and pulls teeth and it chews up belt & pulls gears.
I'll stick with belt.
I guess you haven't seen one of his last video's where he broke his belt in lake Eyre? What a galah...

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Yes saw that, I think his lack of knowledge of the bike he is riding, like if the average Harley owner rider , was out there, they would not try riding through mud, in the Outback you can hit black mud!! it sticks does not throw off. the mud just compressed between the belt & pully. on any big twin, with a belt. if you hear the revs go up, & the bike don't move.And u see a black snake in your mirror & you out where MDB was. It will be a long night. he has all the modern do dad's. I road out there long before cell ( mobile phones ) was more fun in old days!!

Back to belt v chain, another good point I don't think has been mentioned is, you would loose less HP to rear wheel using a belt , than a chain.
Also if I had a choice before breaking ( chain or belt ) I would take the belt every time, a swinging chain does a lot more damage than a broke belt.
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Yes saw that, I think his lack of knowledge of the bike he is riding, like if the average Harley owner rider , was out there, they would not try riding through mud, in the Outback you can hit black mud!! it sticks does not throw off. the mud just compressed between the belt & pully. on any big twin, with a belt. if you hear the revs go up, & the bike don't move.And u see a black snake in your mirror & you out where MDB was. It will be a long night. he has all the modern do dad's. I road out there long before cell ( mobile phones ) was more fun in old days!!

Back to belt v chain, another good point I don't think has been mentioned is, you would loose less HP to rear wheel using a belt , than a chain.
Also if I had a choice before breaking ( chain or belt ) I would take the belt every time, a swinging chain does a lot more damage than a broke belt.
just noticed this thread turns 6 years old soon.
Maybe more money than brains...I think he was pretty lucky he had a mate with him to save him on his questionable actions in the outback. I think every Aussie takes the outback very seriously. Maybe as a precaution he should take some lessons from Les Hiddins next time

I really don't know if a chain looses more HP than a belt? Can't say I noticed it by turning a wheel by hand. But I'm sure someone has tested this on a dyno thing or something?

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Maybe more money than brains...I think he was pretty lucky he had a mate with him to save him on his questionable actions in the outback. I think every Aussie takes the outback very seriously. Maybe as a precaution he should take some lessons from Les Hiddins next time

I really don't know if a chain looses more HP than a belt? Can't say I noticed it by turning a wheel by hand. But I'm sure someone has tested this on a dyno thing or something?

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I just call it "the Bush " . depends were you are & if you're on a main road.

About the belt v chain hp + or - , a Harley Dealer out here when HD sponsored Screaming Eagle Drag series. did a lot of Dyno testing had a few experienced people working with them at the time.
they tested difference chain to belt. they were doing good times & good speeds. but the roaring Sporty's they ran chains. I never got exact numbers or trap speed differences ( belt v chain ) I think the also did a test on rotating weight. but that was Drags & as I said roaring Sporty's all the ones I saw used chains. probably cause easy to change gear ratio for different track's they raced at. I've had more Harleys with chains, but been impressed with belts over the years & on my personal sporty it's smooth & I don't want to loose that smoothness as it's rigid motor mount.
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