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Alright so the wheels are the only thing i haven't done yet on my bike and i wanna get to it since i have put 2000 miles on her since its been back together...my questions are...
1. what tools will i need to balance and true my wheels?
2.what tools will i need to change my wheel bearings?
3.can i get the wheel weights for steel spokes from J&P?
4.can i true my rims with the tire on?
5.what are the signs that my tires are not balanced while riding?
6.what are the signs that my rims are not trued while riding?
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1 wheel weights, truing stand or make one, spoke wrenches
2 front or read, usually small tools and the manual
3 heavy solder will work, harley dealer, JPC, etc.
4 no
5 vibration, wobbly
6 see #5
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1 dial indicator with mag base (2)
2 bearing/seal puller
4 never heard of even trying

did ya just lace em up and start ridin
there are some things I let the indy/stealership do
mount & balance my tires is 1 of em
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1 dial indicator with mag base (2)
2 bearing/seal puller
4 never heard of even trying

did ya just lace em up and start ridin
there are some things I let the indy/stealership do
mount & balance my tires is 1 of em
No i never laced a rim before i just used the same rims and tires that were on the bike before i took it apart...I wanna learn how to do it myself its the only part of the bike i haven't taken tore into...so a few more questions..
1. what tools do i need to take my tire and tube out?
2. what tools do i need to get the tire back on?
3.where can i get a bearing puller?
4.I have heard of dial indicator but what is one with a "mag base"? why 2?
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After changing a few tires 'cause I was too cheap to pay someone else I came to the conclusion that there are a few jobs (tires are one, auto exhaust is another for me) that just aren't worth doing yourself. Tires and rims are one of those things that fit the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If you don't feel vibration or wobble when you ride, leave em like they are. If you really feel the need to learn it, get a spare tire and rim (like most people the back one is the one I usually have to change the most) even if they are almost junk it isn't a bad skill to have, but it takes most people a few times before it starts getting easy.
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. If you don't feel vibration or wobble when you ride, leave em like they are. .
I don't know if my rims and tires are the culprit but when i ride i have to get up to 75-80mph before the heavy vibration goes away...now i know these machines vibrate like a son of a bitch but i am just trying to cut down on it as much as possible...
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as for removing fitting tyres. well
you will need a vice or something to break the bead.
you will need tyre levers to pry it out.
you will need lots of patience and a variety of swear words.
muscles to get them off and on.

its a pain in the arse and done wrong you may end up damaging a rim or something.
id get a shop to do it as for what it will cost to have the tyre removed and refitted/balanced its not worth the effort of doing it yourself.

as for truing why do you need to take the tyre off? provided the nipples turn should be no need to remove the tyre? unless theres something im missing?

the way i would true the wheel is
1. make a jig or
2. the cheap and quick way...
remove fender.
jack front end up.
use two zip ties around the fork legs cut them so they just touch the rim.( or you can zip tie crayons to the fork legs so they touch the rim.) either way up to you.
spin the wheel where the buckle is the crayon or zip tie will hit the rim. ( this is the buckle)
now say the crayon scrubs a 3" line on the r/h side of the rim. you will want to tighten the spokes on the opposing side of the buckle to pull it back in line and you want to do little by little on mtb's i do 1/4 turn at a time. then check and repeat making sure after every adjustment you wipe the rim if you use the crayon method so you know if you made it better. you want to try and have equal tension on all the spokes aswell.
if the wheel has a hop they are harder to get out as they can be made worse easily.
its pretty much trial and error. once you feel you have finished take the bike for a spin and then check again as the spokes will settle under the weight of the bike .

thats what i do on my mountain bikes and i have built plenty of wheels and it always works. and a motor bike is a hub and rim joined by spokes so i dont see why that method wont work.
also if your unsure youtube it there are loads of vids on how to do this stuff.
hope that helps, its what i do and it works for me.
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normally when a wheel needs balancing the vibration will start at a certain speed and go away at a certian speed. atleast thats what normally happens in a car say start at 45-55 and then will go away at like 80.
dunno if thats any use.
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its a pain in the arse and done wrong you may end up damaging a rim or something.
id get a shop to do it as for what it will cost to have the tyre removed and refitted/balanced its not worth the effort of doing it yourself.

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If ya damage a wheel or any other part
just buy new ones
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No i never laced a rim before i just used the same rims and tires that were on the bike before i took it apart...I wanna learn how to do it myself its the only part of the bike i haven't taken tore into...so a few more questions..
1. what tools do i need to take my tire and tube out?
2. what tools do i need to get the tire back on?
3.where can i get a bearing puller?
4.I have heard of dial indicator but what is one with a "mag base"? why 2?
your dont need a "bearing puller" after you pull the grease seal they come right out, the races may need to be pulled but if they are not damaged then ... thats what i did on mine, I relaced mine but had someone else remove the tire, true and balance wheel, fiddy dollar,
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