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28th October 2019
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 179 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1981 Other Motorcycle Model: Suzuki GS850GL Other Motorcycle Year: 1982
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Originally Posted by ferretface
I can't even see my rear mount, there is so much stuff covering it. Is that pic from underneath???
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I found this crack by accident. I pulled my starter to re-build the solenoid. The picture is of the top of the motor back at the down-tubes of the frame in front of the oil tank.
In the video linked here at about 49:00 there is a great view and explanation of where they crack and how to prevent it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wX-S1WGTHI&t=2332s
Last edited by jsandidge; 29th October 2019 at 00:09..
Reason: added video
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29th October 2019
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cornelius, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsandidge
I do plan on fixing it correctly, but I don't want to be splitting cases right now. I will go through the whole motor at some point, so it will get a new mount then.
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You don't have to split the cases to change the mount, just pull the three studs.
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29th October 2019
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 179 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1981 Other Motorcycle Model: Suzuki GS850GL Other Motorcycle Year: 1982
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder rick
You don't have to split the cases to change the mount, just pull the three studs.
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That's good news. I had heard it was necessary.
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29th October 2019
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 179 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1981 Other Motorcycle Model: Suzuki GS850GL Other Motorcycle Year: 1982
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I'm confused now. I just watched another Tatro video showing the mount sliding over the 3 studs during re-assembly of a 77 ironhead. Are you saying I can replace the mount with the motor in the frame by removing the 3 studs?
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31st October 2019
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Oct 2019
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Ok, I got some expert advice. It looks like the motor does need to come out, but the cases don't need to be split. I will do that later this winter. I will put on the angle iron piece this weekend though and see if I can get in a couple of rides first.
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31st October 2019
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Rider Of The Iron Steed
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 32,521 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1978
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Regardless of the knowledge of the others who have responded here, I am not convinced about the use of a piece of Iron to hold the aluminum parts together. The iron [or steel] is way stronger that the aluminum. Any stress and the aluminum will break.
Perhaps I am wrong and someone can convince me.
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31st October 2019
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Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Posts: 2,307 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1964 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH IR EFI Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1971 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1200RS Other Motorcycle Year: 2001
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That crack didnt happen yesterday. Fix it or fly it. A few more rides wont change a thing. Your wasting time figuring out band aids.
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31st October 2019
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Rider Of The Iron Steed
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 32,521 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Mike
That crack didnt happen yesterday. Fix it or fly it. A few more rides wont change a thing. Your wasting time figuring out band aids.
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+1
IronHeads with cracked rear engine mounts have been tearing up highways for decades. Nothing bad will happen. Fix it when you already have it apart for some other reason.
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31st October 2019
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Join Date: Oct 2019
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You know, you guys make a good point about leaving it alone for now. At least I know what I need to do when it comes time. I will be pulling the motor later on anyway.
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1st November 2019
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Look more like a casting flaw than a crack, use ATF mix with diesel, paint the (crack) clean the area and shoot Soft & Dry anti prespirant and if it's crack it will show.
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