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Interesting reading, I have managed to get away with the screaming eagle extra plate & stock diaphragm spring. I've got 88" ( axtell barels ) Hammer Impact 560 cams Hammer billet manifold that fits EFI heads, stock gearing belt drive. clutch felt a bit heavy, but I was setting up clutch adjustment, to suit the way I like it. I adjusted clutch loose so it engages quick very short pull short release. and it feels lighter than when I adjust to have a long release. I have always liked it set that way. just thought I would mention this.
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Interesting reading, I have managed to get away with the screaming eagle extra plate & stock diaphragm spring. I've got 88" ( axtell barels ) Hammer Impact 560 cams Hammer billet manifold that fits EFI heads, stock gearing belt drive. clutch felt a bit heavy, but I was setting up clutch adjustment, to suit the way I like it. I adjusted clutch loose so it engages quick very short pull short release. and it feels lighter than when I adjust to have a long release. I have always liked it set that way. just thought I would mention this.
As long as it disengages that is safe, but slight contact could cause premature wear. If you have too little play then you are in for some serious problems.

I tried to warn a friend about that and he liked his clutch grabbing almost all the way out on the lever. So, one day he calls me from the Baker grade on the way to Vegas and tells me I screwed up his last tune up and he has no HP, can't get over 70 on the grade. I told him to adjust his clutch cable to where he has plenty of free play, and be damned, all his HP came back and he flew up over the grade with a silly grin on his face. Go figure.
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As long as it disengages that is safe, but slight contact could cause premature wear. If you have too little play then you are in for some serious problems.

I tried to warn a friend about that and he liked his clutch grabbing almost all the way out on the lever. So, one day he calls me from the Baker grade on the way to Vegas and tells me I screwed up his last tune up and he has no HP, can't get over 70 on the grade. I told him to adjust his clutch cable to where he has plenty of free play, and be damned, all his HP came back and he flew up over the grade with a silly grin on his face. Go figure.

What I meant is , I have mine as loose as it is possible to have. any looser and if I pull in fully and rev motor high like on the line at the drags. the clutch would not hold bike would push forward. I check I can have motor raving and hold it on the line , but only just.
the opposite way to how I have it could have clutch disengaging while fully out, this would cause clutch slip. not the way I have it.
I find they way I have it set is better for off the line traction at drags, also helps my reaction times. but just me, everyone different. but it makes my clutch pull feel lighter.
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I knew. That's why I said "if it disengages that is safe, but slight contact could cause premature wear"

I agree, adjusting the grab point close to the grip reduces the pressure by not compressing the Diaphragm as far.
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I just installed the 30% X-soft version. Installation is easy. Sanp ring pliers to remove the snap ring on the assy, lift off the ramp, drop the Clutch Lite ramp in place, replace snap ring. I put A drop of assy lube in the grooves.

It works. No bad habits, just a slightly reduced pull but more importantly a wider friction zone which is I why I tried the ClutchLite. I had no problem with the lever effort but wanted a wider friction zone, less of an on-off clutch, and this provides that along with a lighter effort. I notice the wider friction zone more than the reduced effort. If your goal is lighter effort you probably want the 40% version based on what I'm feeling. It was $65 well spent.

I'm running a Barnett Kevlar extra disc (no grenade plate) disc pack and a stock (1200) spring.

One note about the clutch adjustment that seems to get obsessed over. The FSM procedure does suck. It is difficult to feel what's going on turning the screw. What is much easier is to grab and check for movement at the release arm where the cable attaches. Play (or lack of play) is obvious there as you adjust the screw. Check for movement there, same direction as the cable operating the release. You can easily feel the clearance change at the arm as you adjust the screw vs the vague feel you get at the screw.
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What do you think of the Hammer conv. it looks like you got their 110hp package. I am just about to pull the trigger on either Hammer or HRHS just haven't made my mind up which package to go with. The hammer 80hp package is $475 more than HRHS 75hp the Hammer 120hp is more the price of another whole bike more, but I'm really tempted. One thing I do know is I wish I could get a defender exhaust like you have, they have been discontinued I cant find one anywhere.
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What do you think of the Hammer conv. it looks like you got their 110hp package. I am just about to pull the trigger on either Hammer or HRHS just haven't made my mind up which package to go with. The hammer 80hp package is $475 more than HRHS 75hp the Hammer 120hp is more the price of another whole bike more, but I'm really tempted. One thing I do know is I wish I could get a defender exhaust like you have, they have been discontinued I cant find one anywhere.
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Yes, they do. It will run with the taller wheel of the Custom, and it will work with the 19" tire of the Roadster. The only issue so far was with using a 110 on the Roadster, that doers not have the clearance. The stock Roadster tire is a 100, and I designed it for that tire.
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Yes, they do. It will run with the taller wheel of the Custom, and it will work with the 19" tire of the Roadster. The only issue so far was with using a 110 on the Roadster, that doers not have the clearance. The stock Roadster tire is a 100, and I designed it for that tire.
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