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Good day to all

I finally found a good Ironhead and bought it yesterday. I've been wrenching on bikes for a long time, but never found a good Ironhead. All the ones I found were a bit worse for ware.

Glad to be here and get some info and insight.

It's 1985 and is complete, and looks really clean and all the parts are there.
No key, but a clean title.

No oil was in it, no fuel, and the clutches were stuck, but I sorted that all out and bypassed the key switch to get her to crank.

Oil is transferring through the bike and I did get it to pop last night after about an hour of working on it. Then off to bed.

I do have a question. During my inspection I noticed that the rear brake pedal stop bracket bolt, that goes into the right side of the case, the boss that is on the case, seems to be welded. Very nice job, but I didn't know if that was factory. The bike is extremely clean and nothing seems to be disturbed. Even states 3K on the odometer, but I never believe that. Just odd that that would be welded on the bottom side.

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If I understand your question; The bolt itself is welded? PO might have had a problem with the bolt loosening up and that was his fix. If it's the bolt I'm thinking of, it's your pedal stop adjustment and needs to be free to do its job. There should be a jam nut on the bolt to lock it down once you have the adjustment set.
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If I understand your question; The bolt itself is welded? PO might have had a problem with the bolt loosening up and that was his fix.
Thanks for the reply. I can't post a pic.

So, there is a bolt that goes through the read brake pedal stop adjustment (an "L"bracket) and through the side cover, into the case.
Where this bolt goes into the engine case is a raised boss. The bottom portion of this is welded, quite nicely. Looks fine and solid, but seemed odd to me.

Now I have to figure out why my plugs spark once, the first time I hit the starter button, then nothing after that. One pop, then nothing.

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Welcome to the forum.

Maybe the ignition system problem is why it only has 3K on the clock ?

I know nothing about the later electronic ignition systems but there might be something in the stickies. I think we also have one in there about posting pics.

Id the ignition system stock or aftermarket ?

A lot of electronics won't work once battery voltage falls below a set point.

You need to start with a known good battery and I always throw new plugs in. Some IH's eat them.

The hardest problem with EI is working out if the black boxes are working correctly.
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The hardest problem with EI is working out if the black boxes are working correctly.
All you need is a test light to check them.
If a light across the coil does not blink "It's dead Jim".
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Thanks.
Stock ei with VOES.
Coil read 2.3 ohms, so changed that and then checked the trigger plate, which was visibly burned. The back of the plate has very soft, white putty on it. I've worked on bikes for a long time and never saw that. The plate also has a lot of boogered areas denoting that the timing was adjusted many times prior to me getting it.

I put on a points set up and it fired right up.

I'm thinking the ignition module went bad and someone tried to "fix it", but burned up the plate instead.

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And so eventually you got to buy the bike cheap with very few miles on it.

THAT"S why we like EI !
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Hi 4bolts, welcome to the forum. Congrats on getting your new ironhead running. I'm curious if its an early or late '85? Early has a generator like earlier sportsters. Late has an alternator in the clutch and an oil filter where the generator used to go. The late (alternator) models eventually have issues with the magnets breaking off of the rotor.
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An Ultima Ignition kit off eBay will make it nice and reliable and hotter sparks than points can deliver.
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