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I was wondering what the engine is patterned after, 'cause it looks a little Indian to me. Do you think it's maybe a Vrod or a Street design?
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My opinion. Yep, everybody has one! I do not get these bikes, never did since I saw the first BMW version in the 80's. Having ridden dirt bikes my whole life I would take a 500 or a 650 cc Honda or Kawi over a 1200 cc 500 lb + bike any day. Unless your sticking to fire roads I cannot see these things being woods worthy. That's a lot of weight and bulk to catch your balance on. Paris to Dakar, Baja 1000 yeah, maybe.
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These are not my type of bikes but I rode a bmw gs and it is awsome. You don't feel the weight at all, you can pack on it your whole apartment and there will be no noticabe change in handling. The position on it is realy comfortable and you can ride all day, day after day..

It is different in US, but here in Europe these are the best types of bikes for traving, specialy if you pick some gravel roads.
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My opinion. Yep, everybody has one! I do not get these bikes, never did since I saw the first BMW version in the 80's. Having ridden dirt bikes my whole life I would take a 500 or a 650 cc Honda or Kawi over a 1200 cc 500 lb + bike any day. Unless your sticking to fire roads I cannot see these things being woods worthy. That's a lot of weight and bulk to catch your balance on. Paris to Dakar, Baja 1000 yeah, maybe.
It's just like all the people with jacked up pickup trucks, jeeps, and other SUV that never go off road.

And in defense of the adventure bikes, I've ridden a friend's BMW GS Adventure and a Ducati Multistrada , they are comfortable, powerful, have tons of usable luggage space, they set you up high so you can see over cars (like an SUV). They also handle very well on the twisty roads.

If you compare them with a harley touring bike (priced about the same) you get a lighter, faster bike that you can take down a gravel road without fear.
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My opinion. Yep, everybody has one! I do not get these bikes, never did since I saw the first BMW version in the 80's. Having ridden dirt bikes my whole life I would take a 500 or a 650 cc Honda or Kawi over a 1200 cc 500 lb + bike any day. Unless your sticking to fire roads I cannot see these things being woods worthy. That's a lot of weight and bulk to catch your balance on. Paris to Dakar, Baja 1000 yeah, maybe.
I agree; I don't get them either. Quite a lot of them have wheels in sizes that you can't even get off road capable tyres for.
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I was wondering what the engine is patterned after, 'cause it looks a little Indian to me. Do you think it's maybe a Vrod or a Street design?
Articles all seem to be speculating on a Revolution (V-rod, Street) design - 60 degree, water-cooled, OHC, unitized). Especially since they are saying 500-1250cc and modular.
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My opinion. Yep, everybody has one! I do not get these bikes, never did since I saw the first BMW version in the 80's. Having ridden dirt bikes my whole life I would take a 500 or a 650 cc Honda or Kawi over a 1200 cc 500 lb + bike any day. Unless your sticking to fire roads I cannot see these things being woods worthy. That's a lot of weight and bulk to catch your balance on. Paris to Dakar, Baja 1000 yeah, maybe.
Adventure touring bikes are one of the hottest segments right now and have been for some time. Like the GS BMW's they are MOSTLY used on the street with a little fire road thrown in for fun.

Then again a local Guzzi friend and his brother just took his Guzzi Stelvio and Stornello cross country and did some serious off-road trails in the midwest with them (Stelvio is a 1200cc big block 600# GS type competitor, and the Stornello is a 750cc smallblock 450# Guzzi).

Now if these are indeed somehow related to the Street, the current Street Rod comes in at 518# wet.... and if this is more expensive than the Street (and I'd bet that) then use the better materials could see a weight savings or at least off-set the additional bodywork and accessories). Time will tell.
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I expect it to be priced like a BMW GS1200 and Ducati Multistrada, in the $25k plus range.

I just don't see Harley in the low budget segment they see themselves as a "premium " motorcycle.
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