The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > EFI Sportster Motorcycle Talk (2007 and up)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Notices

EFI Sportster Motorcycle Talk (2007 and up) For 2007 and above Sportsters

Active Threads
0 Tach/speedo
Last Post: Mluke33
Posted On: 19 Minutes Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 322
0 Can't find where oil leak is coming from. 1200C
Last Post: Mluke33
Posted On: 20 Minutes Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 84
0 Help Identifying Pistons
Last Post: Staffords
Posted On: 20 Minutes Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 77
0 Chain drive conversion for 100+ horsepower??
Last Post: frank b
Posted On: 23 Minutes Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 124
0 Nothing to See/Hear
Last Post: Tater66
Posted On: 33 Minutes Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 175
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Akdawg
Posted On: 34 Minutes Ago
Replies: 20,845
Views: 2,140,343
0 Is the Sturgis Rally too risky?
Last Post: XL Dane
Posted On: 36 Minutes Ago
Replies: 31
Views: 505
0 Starter wouldn't shut off
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 48 Minutes Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 111
0 Riding pants repair?
Last Post: spoon
Posted On: 51 Minutes Ago
Replies: 13
Views: 174
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: trainman
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 10,883
Views: 2,106,219
3 Wtb, Wts, Wtt, Wtg (Ironhead)
Last Post: bill smith
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 261,540
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: Crusty
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 17,886
Views: 1,046,508
0 Howdy From Texas
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 119
0 Stars and spanners?
Last Post: Meghanbrr
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 14,895
0 What Trips Do You have Planned for 2019
Last Post: Meghanbrr
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 630
0 Replacement oil pump year 74
Last Post: Brog
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 44
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 48,023
Views: 7,714,536
0 Basket case
Last Post: bill smith
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 51
0 1968 xlch
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 34
Views: 2,831
0 Iree's late night cafe
Last Post: ~Grind~
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,668
Views: 223,572
0 Slip on muffler
Last Post: Joe_jeep
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 237
Views: 76,701
0 Boring intro
Last Post: juzyHD
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 156
0 Just installed 70900274 combo gauge - fuel light stuck on
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 22
Views: 375
0 Transformer XR1200
Last Post: Davo_137
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 431
Views: 47,471
0 Anyone go racing last weekend?
Last Post: madnss
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,198
Views: 328,496
0 This week on Craig's list
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,757
Views: 635,909
0 Down on oil
Last Post: Billy1200
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 36
Views: 762
5 Wet Dream, Ever Have One?
Last Post: Joe_jeep
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 89
Views: 17,652
0 73 XLH For Sale, what's it worth
Last Post: RoadsterMike
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 87
0 Mid West Meet & Greet
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 792
Views: 69,594
More...
Members Birthdays
duckster (70), 1ST_SPORTY (67), stein (58), tanksgt (51), tompie (47), eness76 (44), watsone020 (42), bohagon (32)
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 27th December 2019
JunkyardDog JunkyardDog is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 54
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 Low
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 750
Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10
JunkyardDog is an unknown quantity at this point
Default 2014 Iron 883 tuning

I own a 2006 1200L, but a friend of a friend has a 2014 Iron 883 for sale. It is completely stock. It has an orange tank and fenders, and chrome exhaust. Not completely blacked out like later models. Very nice condition with 14,000 miles. He is willing to sell it to me for a great price plus a Japanese bike I have. I am tempted, but if I buy it, it will need a new exhaust. It is way too quiet the way it is. Now the problem. Replacing the exhaust means retuning it. I have never tuned an EFI bike before. I would need a tuner that can be set up either with no computer, or a laptop. I do not own a dumbphone. For a simple exhaust change, the H-D tuner seems like the way to go. The big issue I see is that this tuner, once used on a specific bike (or ECU) can never be used on anything else. Has anyone had any experience with this tuner? Any ideas or opinions?
__________________
I refuse to give up the risk of living for the safety of existence
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 27th December 2019
aswracing's Avatar
aswracing aswracing is offline
A Million Facts & Figures
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Famous Potatoes
Posts: 10,193
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell Cyclone
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1999
Reputation: 2979240
aswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond reputeaswracing has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Do yourself a gigantic favor and get a Powervision. The SE stuff is really limited in what it can do and is cumbersome to tune with. The Powervision blows it away in terms of ease of use, capability, and features.
__________________
Click Here to Contact Me

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27th December 2019
60Gunner's Avatar
60Gunner 60Gunner is offline
Senior Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: United States
Posts: 2,877
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200/1250C
Sportster/Buell Year: 05
Reputation: 3217596
60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute60Gunner has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Besides setting yourself up to need a better tuner down the road with any real upgrades? That 883 will feel like a mini bike power wise in comparison to your 1200. Like losing 1/3 of the hp. No plans for a conversion ever?
__________________
05 1200/1250C/Hammer 570 Cams/E1 clutch kit +15% spring
TC88A Gunner's V00D00 map/DCPR7E/Taylor Pro 8mm
S&S Premium Lifters/KhromeWerks HP Plus 3" slip ons
HSR42 25 pilot 2 turns Y8 needle jet 97 needle 2nd groove 170 main
Dragtron II AC K&N filter/VR1 20W50/Spectro 85wt Primary Oil
Max torque 87.7@4400rpm/max hp 86.8@5600rpm

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c4672303_n.jpg


Need help with your Sportster? Check out the Sportsterpedia!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 27th December 2019
JunkyardDog JunkyardDog is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 54
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 Low
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 750
Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10
JunkyardDog is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I don't plan on doing anything other than changing the exhaust, and the only reason I want to do that is to get the Harley sound out of it. I may use slip ons. Yes it is a much smaller less powerful bike, but that is kind of what I want. I would be trading a Japanese bike I no longer really want and a fairly small amount of money for it. I don't want to wind up spending way more money than it is worth just to tune it for an aftermarket exhaust. A 6 year old 883 just isn't worth it. It's just a lightweight bike for running around locally on that has the right look, feel, and sound. So basically I am looking for the cheapest way to make it run right and not overheat from being too lean when I change the exhaust.

I watched Revzilla's video on the Powervision. It sure is a cool toy, but seems to be overkill for what I need. OTOH, I am totally new to tuning EFI bikes, that is why I am looking for advice. It's more confusing than I thought. I'm so used to just changing jets and shimming needles. Thanks for the responses
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 27th December 2019
Bob F's Avatar
Bob F Bob F is offline
XLF LIFEMEMBER Im retired
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,408
Sportster/Buell Model: XL50 0596 Black
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Other Motorcycle Model: E-Glide
Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
Reputation: 886328
Bob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond reputeBob F has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Do some research here: http://xlforum.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=312

With a stock air cleaner you may be fine.
__________________
Bob, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of bartenders and sinners!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 27th December 2019
Tomcatt Tomcatt is offline
Dazed & Confused
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 1,407
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2017
Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T
Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
Tomcatt has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkyardDog View Post
I watched Revzilla's video on the Powervision. It sure is a cool toy, but seems to be overkill for what I need. OTOH, I am totally new to tuning EFI bikes, that is why I am looking for advice. It's more confusing than I thought. I'm so used to just changing jets and shimming needles. Thanks for the responses
If you haven't changed the stock air cleaner assy the exhaust won't change the required mapping much. But the big reason to go with a PowerVision is that the stock mapping is so bad to keep the EPA happy. Your bike (even pure stock) can run MUCH better/nicer/cooler with a PowerVision. If you get into tuning you will end up with a laptop, it gets addictive once you learn what the PowerVision will let you do. All my shop stuff is on an old IBM laptop running XP.
__________________
2017 XL1200C in Wisconsin, USA
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 27th December 2019
Highly-Dangerous's Avatar
Highly-Dangerous Highly-Dangerous is online now
Senior Chief Master Mechanic 1st Class
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: 17130 Spain
Posts: 1,299
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 883 ₪ 1275
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: Big Dog K9
Other Motorcycle Year: 2006
Reputation: 2847575
Highly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond reputeHighly-Dangerous has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkyardDog View Post
I own a 2006 1200L, but a friend of a friend has a 2014 Iron 883 for sale. It is completely stock. It has an orange tank and fenders, and chrome exhaust. Not completely blacked out like later models. Very nice condition with 14,000 miles. He is willing to sell it to me for a great price plus a Japanese bike I have. I am tempted, but if I buy it, it will need a new exhaust. It is way too quiet the way it is. Now the problem. Replacing the exhaust means retuning it. I have never tuned an EFI bike before. I would need a tuner that can be set up either with no computer, or a laptop. I do not own a dumbphone. For a simple exhaust change, the H-D tuner seems like the way to go. The big issue I see is that this tuner, once used on a specific bike (or ECU) can never be used on anything else. Has anyone had any experience with this tuner? Any ideas or opinions?
Then... how do you interact in here???? Just curious....

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 28th December 2019
JunkyardDog JunkyardDog is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 54
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 Low
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 750
Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10
JunkyardDog is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I have both desktop and laptop computers with Windows 10. I do not have a dumbphone, and don't want one. I use a '90s style flip phone. Before coming here, I watched a few youtube videos on tuning EFI, and everybody recommended the FP3, which requires one of those phones to use. I was looking for something that could be used either by itself, or with a computer, and NOT a phone. Sorry for the confusion.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 28th December 2019
Glamazon Glamazon is offline
Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Thornton, NW Lancs
Posts: 2,378
Sportster/Buell Model: xl883r sold
Sportster/Buell Year: 2014
Reputation: 4734401
Glamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond reputeGlamazon has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I had Khromewerks slip ons, S & S teardrop air cleaner & Power Vision tuner on my 883R & it really perked it up. Glad I upgraded the suspension & tyres first. A Stage 1 883 is no slouch,I saw a lot of Big Twins & hot cars off away from the lights
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 28th December 2019
Sportycus Sportycus is offline
Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 109
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2014
Reputation: 487824
Sportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond reputeSportycus has a reputation beyond repute
Default

My phone is a candy bar phone with actual buttons, so it can make phone calls like there's no tomorrow, but it does not support the latest in 99-cent fart button technology.

I use a Dynojet Power Vision if I have to tune things, and I find the software and UI pretty good for what it's worth. You can do some of diagnostic and tuning stuff without a computer, but you're limited in what you can do, and you can't download/upload/backup tunes without one.
There is an auto-tuner mode that lets you tune it on the street based on your riding style, and you can run that without the help of a computer as well if you wish. A laptop does make things easier though.

Even if you're not tuning anything, the diagnostics like engine temperature and sensor data can come in handy. It can also check diagnostic trouble codes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:14.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC