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9th December 2021
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 161 Sportster/Buell Model: XL-883 standard Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Hey guys, just wanted to thank you all for your help with this.
I made a 9 minute video going over the main half dozen advantages of both chain conversions and of sticking with belt.
I had most of an old chain, an old belt pully, my XL and a chain drive bike or two so I had enough that I think everything I'm saying is pretty clearly illustrated.
Most importantly though, I mentioned XLForum along with a screenshot of the website right in the first 20-ish seconds as my way of aknowledging you guys helping me out with this and hopefully getting more XL riders out there to join us in here.
Cheers!
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9th December 2021
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 2,926 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Originally Posted by Edster
All in all Sportsters in my opinion are much easier to wrench on than big twins, not just drive chain either I knew a few Big Twin riders that converted to chain just for the ease of changing them out.
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Yes and no. My Shovelhead was chain drive, with the adjustable engine oil oiler. Yes, I could loop in a new chain. Chains got replaced every ~10,000 miles, but every other chain it needed new sprockets and replacing the C/S sprocket meant pulling the primary.
My BT Evo (with belt) got the belt replaced because I switched to the Euro issue 9 tooth smaller rear sprocket which required the shorter softail belt. I had 30,000+ miles on that belt when I sold the bike.
So with a chain the primary came off every 20,000 miles to replace the C/S sprocket. Or, with a belt, every 30,000+ miles to replace the belt.
My Sportster has 20,000 miles on it and the belt looks just fine. Only adjusting I've done has been to get it running centered on the rear sprocket. I'm spoiled, a no muss & fuss belt on my Sportster and my R9Ts' shaft drive that just gets an occaisional final drive oil change.
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9th December 2021
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,845 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1964 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH IR EFI Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1971 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1200RS Other Motorcycle Year: 2001
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A well maintained chain will last a long time.
Did you ever see how long a chain on an enclosed chain FLT lasts??
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9th December 2021
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 161 Sportster/Buell Model: XL-883 standard Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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The finished product: https://youtu.be/ZINqslR8GW0
Made sure I spent a few seconds early on thanking XL Forum for helping me put this together. Not sure how to embed the video or if that's possible, sorry.
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9th December 2021
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XL FORUM LIFE MEMBER
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a swamp/Michigan
Posts: 16,371 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1460C Sportster/Buell Year: 2000 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: XL1200R Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Mike
A well maintained chain will last a long time.
Did you ever see how long a chain on an enclosed chain FLT lasts??
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They last forever, protected from dirt and bathed in oil. There is a penalty paid when it comes to replacing a rear tire.
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10th December 2021
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,845 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1964 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH IR EFI Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1971 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW K1200RS Other Motorcycle Year: 2001
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Not so bad when proper procedure is followed. Installing new boots and seals (and getting it oil tight) is where you pay the price.
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11th December 2021
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: League City
Posts: 819 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200S Sportster/Buell Year: 2003
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Good video! Gave it a like and a subscribe.
Sent from my LM-G900TM using Tapatalk
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12th December 2021
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Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,325 Sportster/Buell Model: 2001 883 Custom
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The main advantage of chain drive is that it allows more horsepower to the ground. A belt drive can take 10% or more of your engines output just to drive the rear wheel. A chain is about 5%. so if you like to hot rod a chain is for you if you like to take it easy and just cruise, a belt is the way to go. .
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15th December 2021
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 161 Sportster/Buell Model: XL-883 standard Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Desertfox
The main advantage of chain drive is that it allows more horsepower to the ground. A belt drive can take 10% or more of your engines output just to drive the rear wheel. A chain is about 5%. so if you like to hot rod a chain is for you if you like to take it easy and just cruise, a belt is the way to go. .
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Has that ever actually been demonstrated with the same motorcycle, on the same dyno, before and after?
I've heard different variations of this, always with different numbers, and never with any proof...
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15th December 2021
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 161 Sportster/Buell Model: XL-883 standard Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edster
Good video! Gave it a like and a subscribe.
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Very cool, thank you, you were a big part of it! lol
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