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In doing research on the transmission, it seems the 04-05 trans used

a) the same straight cut gears as pre-04
b) a new style shifter assembly (specific to the 04-05 models)

Perhaps the new shifter style was not as efficient at moving the dogged gears as was the case with the pre-04 shifter pawl...

The change in the trans gear style in 2006 to use dog rings, not part of the gears themselves, which are less mass to move, may have allowed the new shifter assembly to perform more efficiently and therefore have less issues with shifting...

Then again, in 2006, the shifter shaft itself was increased in diameter that may have affected the quality of movement transmitted from the foot lever to the shifter drum...

I'm certain that how you shift (aggressive, mild, casual) on the 04-05 and the 06+ models will definitely affect the functionality (as it always has)...

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Very great info! Thank you so much for posting this. So I guess my question is, should I be shifting more aggressively with my 2004? I came from Japanese bikes where it was literally no effort to shift. I have been firmer with my shifts on my sportster but I feel like I might be a bit too gentle and maybe too slow and gradual on the shift.
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Both of my Sportsters wanted to be shifted like I was serious about it.
When I got the Triumph in 2012, it shifted so smooth I was not sure I shifted, before releasing the clutch! Same with the Moto Guzzi.
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Very great info! Thank you so much for posting this. So I guess my question is, should I be shifting more aggressively with my 2004? I came from Japanese bikes where it was literally no effort to shift. I have been firmer with my shifts on my sportster but I feel like I might be a bit too gentle and maybe too slow and gradual on the shift.
My opinion, and I believe the consensus of most advice over the years on this forum, is to shift with sufficient force to guarantee the full extent of the shifter movement in a short period of time - Move it like you mean it!!!

That doesn't mean to stand on the shifter like it's a foot peg - but since the clutch plates always have some small level of drag between them causing a tendencey for transmission rotation, even when the clutch is fully held, it is important to shift quickly and assertively to minimize unsyncronizing the gears...

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Usually when I shift from first to second it feels notchy. And if I try and shift too fast, like right when I pull the clutch instead of a second after, it’ll feel more notchy like it’s going to grind but doesn’t. Like the dogs are moving too fast to mesh. If I shift too soft like I would with a Japanese bike it’s so much worse. I thought maybe my idle was too high, maybe the Barnett clutch is dragging (I’ve adjusted the clutch a million times with no luck). I donno I will see if there is any pawl adjustment I can do when I take the clutch apart to make sure it’s not hanging up.

I bet if I hadn’t ridden Japanese bikes before then I probably wouldn’t think anything was wrong.
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I guess I'll throw this in here. Because My chore will be figuring out why 3rd gear on a 2000 5 speed refuses to engage. It has to be bypassed into 4th.

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