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I'd type something bu IXL2Relax pretty much wrote what I would.

You might want to get David Hough's books. He covers lane positioning in great detail.
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When I was first riding I had very rigid ideas about where to ride in the lanes.

Now where I ride really is dictated by traffic, the situation such as am I approaching a stop light or pulling up behind a car. Is it on the freeway or on city streets, are we in the country or what ever.

there is so much to consider, such as if a car is in the next on your right side a car length in front of you and you are in the left side of the lane, does she adjust her mirrors to be able to see you there or does she adjust her mirrors to see her cars rear end? In other words will she change lanes into you because she can not see you because she does not know how to adjust her mirrors. Had that happen to me just 3 days ago.

I constantly adjust my lane choice to according to the vehicles around me. And even then Someone pulls a bonehead move. last year I pulled up behind a pickup truck at a stop light, I intentionally pulled right in the middle so that he would have to see me in his rear view. So the idiot decides not to turn left but go right and wants to back up. I was on the horn fast and he got out to apologize and said he did not see me. I asked if he looked in his rear view and he said "No I just looked in my side view."
And that people is why I say there are no rigid rules to lane choice, you need to be aware of what is around you at all times and make yourself as visible as possible for that point in time. And even that does not work.,

My advise to new riders is to ride where there is good traction and where you can be seen, and think about that as you ride.
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someone put this in my head a while ago and it stuck - position yourself so that you can see and be seen by other drivers
Also, dont assume that every driver uses their mirrors when changing lanes, etc.
great advice, I have been on street bikes since the mid 70s and will say I am always amazed at how much we can get cut off because people do not see us.

I think a bit of good advice I always give is to BUY A LOUD HORN AND LEARN WHERE THE BUTTON IS. Has helped me many times.
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I ride in the wheel track next to the centerline and move over for oncoming cars and cars that want to pass. Here in North Dakota, if you ride by the shoulder of the road, you get twice as plastered by BUGS. Same goes for the interstate hi-ways.
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I also use a headlight modulator. It may be annoying to some, but it wakes the brain dead very well.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have been riding for a while and been to the riders safety class 3 times. Last time was 1993 or so. I like the right side of the lane for the reasons mentioned above and do move around the lane to attempt to remain seen. Between my buddies comments and y'all's input I think I will attempt to ride in the left of center at least when someone is in front of me.
For what its worth I have recently taken to calling traffic squirrels. You never know what those critters are going to do. So, always try to ride where they can't get me with that sudden lane change.
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traffic squirrels = squirrelly drivers = idgits

Yep - You never know what drivers are going to do & we don't have the protection of big metal boxes to absorb the impact...

After proper control of your bike, there's nothing more important than a survival attitude when riding - You need to know where every vehicle is around you - front, back & sides - You can't assume any of them are going to do the right thing - You can't assume they even know you are there...

A mistake on their part is just an Oooops to them - but it may send you to the hospital or worse... So, while it's not 'fair', YOU must protect yourself from them at all times...

Whenever you're going to pass, do so with deliberate speed to avoid riding in a blind spot - and if on a four-lane with lots of traffic, hang back until you can safely pass completely, rather than be riding for a long time 'next to' the other vehicle - never ride close behind a tractor-trailer - If a tire tread lets loose or he runs over debri, you're going to get whacked before you see it...

I don't think there is a safe spot from being rear ended in traffic - but for my part, I somtimes weave a bit before stopping (hoping the driver behind notices me if they were distracted) or move just slightly to the center & then back towards the left in order to present a wider view of my bike when I actually stop... I also try to leave some room ahead so should someone touch me, I have enough room not to be up against the front guys bumper, too...

When no one is behind you when you stop, you should be watching your mirrors to monitor anyone eventually coming up from behind - tap your brake a couple times so they notice you - I usually stop in the left-side of the lane - I also keep the bike in gear to be able to jump out of the way if I see it coming...

Personally, if I had to ride in traffic all the time, I simply would not ride my motorcycle (one of the reasons I didn't own one when I lived in the Balt/Wash area)... As my boardname indicates, riding for me is to relax and I keep to the secondary roads to minimize the stress level of heightened survival mode required in heavy traffic...

But even in the countryside, real squirrels can pose enough danger, especially on curves to keep you on your toes - not to mention ground hogs, possums & deer...

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I mainly ride to the left side with a few exceptions. When in the far left lane of a multi lane road/highway I ride to the right. The theory is cars are less likely to join you in your lane. However, I will shift positions as needed to be seen better or to move away from a vehicle that is moving erratically.



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On the 2 lane highway I have been surprised by fellow bikers tucked in tight to the rear of a car coming towards me [tailgating] and over to their right. I think that if you hang back 4 or 5 car lengths other drivers think you are not a competent rider and don't know what you are doing and give you a wide berth, which is good for you. Or maybe not.
When I am in my car I always give bikes a wide berth, just because. I know I don’t appreciate drivers that want to crawl up my backside, I go out of my way not to create a nervous situation for someone riding.
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I prefer right of center. When coming to stop light, left directly in line with driver's side view mirror. I don't like being passed on the right, makes me uncomfortable.
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When I am in my car I always give bikes a wide berth, just because. I know I don’t appreciate drivers that want to crawl up my backside, I go out of my way not to create a nervous situation for someone riding.
Same here. I sometimes end up giving too much room to the rider in front of me and then another cager slips between us so he can get right on the riders ass. Then I feel guilty.

I once saw a BT go down in front of me while coming to a slow stop. Now he shouldn't have been sporting shorts and penny loafer type shoes, but I helped him up anyways. He veered off to the nearest Target for burn cream afterwards.

Then, upon a green light, everyone took off fast except a Honda rider on the left of me who just fell over. Good thing nobody was behind him 'following the crowd'.

I pulled into a gas station once at turtle speed in the rain, hit a patch of oil, down I went. Glad nobody was on my tail that day.

You never know.
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