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Old 21st June 2011
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Default Questions on Springer front end for my Bobber Build.

Ok so i am building a 1972 Ironhead sporty bobber and i will have my Weld on Hardtail section in next week. I know i am wanting to go with a Springer front end. I am wondering if anyone has any information on pros/cons to Wide/Narrow springers and what works best and handles best. I just got my motor back and im ready to get this build finished up and work on my next project. Also what would be the best way to figure up the best configuration and set up on the over/under on the springer as well. Thanks for any and all information.
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I just built a custom springer this spring and I used a DNA wideglide springer. I just bought am 83' IronHead and I plan to put a springer on that as well. The ride is a little different but after a few rides you'll be used to it. I used a 2 under on the bike I finished. My preference is a low stance and my 83' I feel is way too tall. Im planning on a 2 under with a 21" front wheel. Ill be going with another DNA springer and a wideglide front wheel. My 83' front end is almost 26" from bottom of neck to center of axle. So the DNA I get will be 22" which will be 4 under stock of my Ironhead. DNA considers 24" to be a stock Harley size.
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What about the 1'' bearing issue what bearing to run in the old frames? For the trees I would like to run a springer too.
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You can switch your 7/8" ball bearing neck cups to 1" cups with Timkin style bearings.

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/230-694
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I was pretty Ignorant when it came to putting the DNA on my 08, just liked the look. Found DNA online and talked to their tech & he just suggested a 2" under for my application, 2 weeks later I had a nightmare with no turning radius due to the lower supports bangin into my frame. Needless to say with a little creative welding we got it workin. I love the feel, it's rough & noisy, I won't attempt sport bike maneuvers, but I love the feel! Kinda like the differences between my 68 Firebird & my Cayman, I love them both for what they are. I was never told anything about a wide or narrow though, when I look on DNA site, I still see no option of wide or narrow, so I couldn't tell you which one I got . I am about to hardtail a 79, & I want to put a DNA on it too, so I guess that I'm curious too, where can I find the differences in DNA catalogue?
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Paugcho and DNA Both make the Identical springer and sell it under different names. The DNA is the Wide glide and The Paugcho has a choice of wide or narrow. (the last time I checked) The Pro is that the DNA cost is about half of the Paugcho probably due to the same plans being built in 2 different places but that is nothing more than speculation... With that said, I built a 66 BSA with a -2" springer and 21" front. I loved it. The quality of the DNA was fine (regardless of what haters will say) and the ride was fine. They are bouncy and a little noisy but they are supposed to be. I have seen all three in person, DNA wide Paugcho wide and narrow. The Narrow Paugchos are sick! I have no idea where to source them or what they cost, but I'm sure they are at least twice what a new DNA is.... IMHO if you spend over $600 its worth a repop or OG HD straightleg as they look sooooo much better than the others unless you are building a full 70s chop, then the Narrow Paugcho makes sense. If you are on a budget, like the rest of us, the DNA is a lot of "bang for the buck"
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btw, another thing to consider... with the DNA as pictured on the nightster above, the shortest they go is -2". If you look closely you can see the chrome rockers... If you flip the rockers, they will run -4".... the -4" dna is the formula used for all of "supercroutons" high end Triumphs being built these days

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I put a DNA springer on my 73 ironhead and love it. I had to take .022 out of the neck cups and turn the shoulder down on the stem bolt with it cause of the earlier year. Their may be different options out there just the way I went with it . With a 21" front and 16" rear on my Paucho Rigid I went with a 2 under....
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Gone 2 under DNA chrome springer on my 1979 ironhead had to cut the tabs off the frame for the steering and relocate then another advantage is that DNA now do an all in one disc brake kit thats just bolt on and go as always lovely engineered bit of kit not on the road yet as its the winter build but will get there in the end Ride Safe Pilgrim
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Ok so i am building a 1972 Ironhead sporty bobber and i will have my Weld on Hardtail section in next week. I know i am wanting to go with a Springer front end. I am wondering if anyone has any information on pros/cons to Wide/Narrow springers and what works best and handles best
It's more about personal taste than going by some "formula" to determine what looks best. My opinion would be that Sportsters, since they're skinnier than Big Twins, look better with narrow springers. Length is going to depend on how you want it to sit --level, or slightly up in the front. Again, it's all in what you like. That said, I'm going to go off topic a little. Since you're doing a weld on hardtail, you'll be removing the seat post/backbone casting from your frame. If yours is in good condition, and you would like to sell it, let me know. I need one to repair a a damaged frame Thanks.

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