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Talking New to the HD world, Ironhrad vs Shovel, whats the diff

So I'm new to the HD world and was wondering the similarities and differences in the body, and engine of an 84 ironhead vs a shovelhead? Thnx
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the main difference is Shovelheads are larger displacement and the engine and trans are separate units. Ironheads (and all Sportsters) have the trans and crankcase housed together. K models had the same type of crankcase.

Shovels are a little bigger bike as well





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and sound a whole lot different too
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Sportsters have the final drive on the right side
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Evolution of HD big twins

https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/blog/....z7mW1C3d.dpbs

Sportster history

https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/blog/....rgDY7mG3.dpbs
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4 cams and better pushrod geometry.
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shovel had a torque advantage
shovel had crappy head flow characteristic.
took a little more finesse to coax more power
even though it had a weird cam setup, they still could run
get away from stock hd gearing, would easily smoke a beemer 900rs (that was a fun street race)
i give the xl hands up on handling, doing "8"'s or knee slide
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The rocker boxes looked similar. Other than that, two completely different bikes. It's like comparing any sportster today to a big twin.
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The one on the left is a Shovel and the one on the right is an XLCH

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The shovel is an attempt to make a bigger,clumsier albeit more powerful bike into a lighter almost as nimble and almost as racy version of a true sports bike,thus the name Sportster.
Once in a while ,you see some wing ding try to turn a Sportster into a smaller lighter version of a big bike by adding pounds of fairings saddle bags and even more cumbersome big bike tanks and fenders,....never should the twain meet or try to imitate one another. There's always trade offs and side effects,like drugs ,that aren't usually good.
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