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I used Amsoil on one Sporty engine and ran it over 150,000 miles before the top end had to even be opened up. Swapped the engine out for a very low mileage engine and ran it for over 150,000 miles using Mobil 1 Synthetic V-Twin oil. Put over 100,000 more on a rebuilt top end with the Mobil1. I have just about decided if you keep the oil changed and take care of the mechanical maintenance that it don't make a fiddler's damn what kind of oil you use, just so it is suitable for the application and listed for use in wet clutch systems. I am now using Lucas Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil for wet clutch applications............. mainly just because it is easy to get.
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I don't care if my motor oil is for use in wet clutches. That gets oil made for gear boxes. What's good for one isn't what's best for the other.
Major motorcycle engines share the same oil in engine and gearbox. So if it is specified for both, I don't know why it shouldn't be good for both...
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There's a difference between good for(read safe for) and best for. What's best for my motor is not safe for use in wet clutches.
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For an engine to operate effectively and efficiently it requires many different qualities from it's motor oil and certainly one of the more important qualities is lubricity; since a clutch is using friction as it's main mechanical function.....probably lubricity is not high on it's list of requirements. Is a compromise between lubricity and friction worthwhile?

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For an engine to operate effectively and efficiently it requires many different qualities from it's motor oil and certainly one of the more important qualities is lubricity; since a clutch is using friction as it's main mechanical function.....probably lubricity is not high on it's list of requirements. Is a compromise between lubricity and friction worthwhile?
Ahh, but the same fluid lubricates the transmission and I'd think the gears and bearings would prefer lubrication over friction ...
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Ahh, but the same fluid lubricates the transmission and I'd think the gears and bearings would prefer lubrication over friction ...
And film strength/thickness... Clutch disc's cut thru the film, gears and bearings etc rely on it.
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Rarely does a compromise of anything become an ideal situation....I have bought the $20 dollar container of gear oil sold by Harley for my Primary and gearbox......I will use Amsoil 15W-60 in the engine along with K & N chrome filter this time....next time a HD chrome filter will be on my bike (I have read in here it will make my bike go faster). I don't know this for a fact.....but I have been told Indian 15W-60 motorcycle oil is made by Amsoil to a formula (developed by Indian engineers) to help quiet the Indian Scout's engine. I have not been able to find out the Zinc, Phosphorus, Moly PPMs or if they have some other magical additives in the oil.....anybody in here know anything about the Indian motorcycle oil?
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Speaking strictly about the Harley XL, I used Mobil 1 in the engine and used Ford Automatic Transmission Fluid in the primary and the gearbox. The XL has a Barnett Scorpion clutch and Barnett recommended the ATF for use with their clutch. I have worn out a few clutches, but never worn out a gearbox enough that it would need repair, other than the shift arms, , no matter what lubricant it had in it. I have put more miles on XL engines and transmissions in just a few years than most bikes get in their life time. My old 2001 XL now belongs to my son, along with the two parts bikes. I ride a 2019 Cam Am Spyder which has an integral lower end. The oil is shared with the engine and transmission. It is also a wet clutch. What is right for one engine may not be right or even possible for all motorcycle engines. The majority of motorcycles I have owned in my life had integral engine and gearboxes. I do realize this is an XL Forum, but many people also own more than one bike and have other brands of bikes with different oil requirements.
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Everything I've read on Indian Oil 15W60, is that it has less Zinc and Phosphorus to preserve the catalytic converters. No one says how much is in it, tho. I think Harley Oil has been reformulated this way, too.
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