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I can vouch for the Baja side. Good for riding and eating tacos on the beach. Just follow the basic travelers rules and you wont have an issue. The DK trip had an unfortunate incident up near the northern part in a isolated spot. Admittedly a poor mistake on his part stopping where he did.
Take your time as the roads can be a little rough and narrow. Travel during the day and stop at the more "popular" stops. Take 2 down and 3 days back up as you get a bit familiar with the peninsula. Stay a few down south (Loreto or La Paz) Cabo is a bit too touristy.
Plan ahead if you are going during the end of Oct thru Nov 2020 as the race this year will be down the entire length and will be populated with racers prerunning. Camping wont be an issue and it will be much "safer" during those times. "hotel" rooms will not be available the week before the race at all.
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You need to ask yourself "What do I want from Mexico?"

I was in Juarez for a week a on a mission trip couple of years ago.
We were cautioned by the locals that there are "NO GO" zones all over. You can't drink the water. Sanitation facilities are often limited away from tourist areas. Graft/extortion is common. Crime was very common

Overall, very nice people in some lousy situations. Go to the link for specific state information....

I hear there are some very nice beaches with tacos in Texas and southern California.

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See travel map:https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/...6,33.446969624

Baja is yellow "Use Increased Caution"
Near the Texas/Mexico boarder along the Gulf is red "Do Not Travel"
Everything else except far south is orange "Reconsider Travel"

U.S. Gov travel advisory: https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...-advisory.html
There is more info on specific states at the link
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Exercise increased caution in Mexico due to crime and kidnapping. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory.

Violent crime – such as homicide, kidnapping, carjacking, and robbery – is widespread.

The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in many areas of Mexico, as travel by U.S. government employees to certain areas is prohibited or significantly restricted.

U.S. government employees may not travel between cities after dark, may not hail taxis on the street, and must rely on dispatched vehicles, including from app-based services like Uber or from regulated taxi stands. U.S. government employees may not drive from the U.S.-Mexico border to or from the interior parts of Mexico, with the exception of daytime travel within Baja California, between Nogales and Hermosillo on Mexican Federal Highway 15D, and between Nuevo Laredo and Monterrey on Highway 85D (during daylight hours and with prior Consulate authorization only).

Read the Safety and Security section on the country information page.

Do Not Travel To:

Colima state due to crime.
Guerrero state due to crime.
Michoacán state due to crime.
Sinaloa state due to crime.
Tamaulipas state due to crime and kidnapping.

Reconsider Travel To:

Chihuahua state due to crime.
Coahuila state due to crime.
Durango state due to crime.
Jalisco state due to crime.
Mexico state due to crime.
Morelos state due to crime.
Nayarit state due to crime.
Nuevo Leon state due to crime.
San Luis Potosi state due to crime.
Sonora state due to crime.
Zacatecas state due to crime.

For detailed information on all states in Mexico, please see below.

If you decide to travel to Mexico:

Keep your traveling companions and family back home informed of your travel plans. If separating from your travel group, send a friend your GPS location. If taking a taxi alone, take a photo of the taxi number and/or license plate and text to a friend.

Use toll roads when possible and avoid driving alone or at night. In many states, police presence and emergency services are extremely limited outside the state capital or major cities.

Exercise increased caution when visiting local bars, nightclubs, and casinos.

Do not display signs of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry.

Be extra vigilant when visiting banks or ATMs.

Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.

Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter.

Review the Crime and Safety Reports for Mexico.

Prepare a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.

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thanks Kieth and Mike!
I forgot about the Baja race.Don't want to be there then.
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Tim, l read that thread. Some interesting conflicting ideas.
Thanks for the link.
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I don't know of anyway to avoid their territory except by staying out of Mexico. South of the US border down to Mazatlan is risky, imo. I have never been to Baha. Been to Monterrey. Worked in Durango for a week. Two years after I was there it had turned violent. Heads tossed into local establishments, as a 'warning'!
Even before I went it was sketchy. My fiend Jason went to Durango six or seven months before I went. He ended up at a club, held hostage until his friends came back with enough cash to pay for the drinks. It was a 700$ tab for four of them, 50$ a beer.
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Mainland Mexico is much different than Baja.
Travel with two or more adult males behaving properly, you wont have an issue.
No weapons of any type, drugs ect and youll do fine with the police and local military. My bet is you will have less of a hassle in Baja than you will in your time youll be spending in L.A.

My bike trip suggestion would be first stay the night in Campo Ca, wake up early and enjoy the twisty road to the border crossing in Tecate. Take the "Route of the Vines" into Ensenada and proceed down Hwy 1 to San Quentin. Spend the eve at The Santa Maria Mission hotel (google it). I have stayed at this wonderful beachfront hotel lots of times and a few times had it completely to ourselves. The staff is friendly and have often let us bring our dirtbikes into the courtyard swimming pool area to do our servicing. From there leave in the morning and head down either stopping an extra eve at Bay of Los Angeles to stay at Guillermo's Hotel or head down to San Ignacio and stay at "Rice and Beans". From there, in the morning cruise south to Loreto, La Paz or Cabo for another day or so. That will give you some exposure to determine how you will make your return trip. Plan atleast 2 days min to get back up the peninsula with constant riding. You could stop in Ensenada for the last night (Villa Fontana Inn has good secure parking and right downtown) on your return and leave north towards San Diego through Tijuana during the day and cross back into US via Hwy 1. From there, your on your own. Ive had more unfortunate things happen where you'll be heading from here on out.
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Mike , that is great help. Thanks!!
However, the trip is coast to coast North America. So we'd be entering somewhere from Texas. I was thinking of getting the ferry from Mazatlán across to the southern tip of Baja, then ride up.
When you say mainland Mexico is different from Baja, I presume you mean unsafe?
Also, we're older blokes and respectful, not like some of the silly twits I've seen on youtube.
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Thanks old boy. food for thought there. I wonder how feasible it is to bypass the big cities, or at least dodgy nightclubs?
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Yes, that is exactly what I meant. I know guys that in the past have used the ferry to get their race equipment across to the mainland and up, but they only moved during the day and in quck fashion. that was a few years ago. Now they wont even consider it. That is also with a direct route towards the AZ side. They wont even joke about going the Texas side.
If you are confident in your self preservation skills, and you really want to go, there is no other answer. Use caution and common sense. If you want to relax and enjoy the locals and the landscape, Baja wins my vote every time.
Good luck with your decision and your trip and have fun
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Like Iron Mike said, be aware, and use an up to date guide book like Lonely Planet. I am sure there are lots of safe, legit places between Laredo and Mazatlan. The main highways are patrolled by service trucks that carry fuel and basic repair supplies. Get a cell phone that works in Mexico. Buy one at the border when you cross into Mexico and put some minutes on it.
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