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What sort of material are you planning to use for the sleeve?
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What about any type of hardened aluminium? Trap door is aluminium, isn't it?
what about outer diameter of the sleeve the '4'- 63,5mm( you marked it '3' but you probably mitsaked.?), is that the diameter of trap door hole or the sleeve must be that wide?
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Alu should work to with good press fit.
Yes it should be 4 not 3 and I could not get a good measure on that hole but it was close to2.5 inches, but you would have to make a precise fit for it so take your own measurements

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Hey norse! I just want to let you know that I foud NUP1009 roller bearing (6009 replacement) bearing on Alibaba if you are interested!
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Hey norse! I just want to let you know that I foud NUP1009 roller bearing (6009 replacement) bearing on Alibaba if you are interested!
Thx, but my SKF 6009 is still good
and with the support bearing it should be no need anyway...

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Hey norse! What's the progress?
I'm just wondering, I send some inquiries for 6908 rs bearing on ebay and if it is suitable for wet primary drive. They all said that is not!? Do you think it would be better if it would be metal shielded?
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I'm just wondering, I send some inquiries for 6908 rs bearing on ebay and if it is suitable for wet primary drive. They all said that is not!? Do you think it would be better if it would be metal shielded?
Not much progress, waiting for tools.
Rubber should be fine, even H-D use rs-bearing in the clutch, they do however use steel-shield on the one in the trap-door for some reason.


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Hi norseXL

Nice work on the trap door! I bought a Zipper trap door in the end but I find that it is the clutch basket 6009 bearing that still fails first - the dreaded basket wobble. It is worth using loctite bearing fix on the inner hub when pressing it up and shimming out all the end float.

I have linked details of how to buy a Koyo japan made NUP1009 bearing with machined brass cage on the link: http://xlforum.net/forums/s....php?t=1434936
Mine arrived after ten days and cost £25 from NOKs bearings. NOKs had them in stock. Or you can also special order them in Europe for big money and it will take months.

If you follow my other link to the HDRCGB website you see photos and diagrams of the bearing. It is three piece design with a thrust ring so the inner encloses the rollers when pressed up. You will see it is much stronger than a 6009. It is an open design, so the oil mist lubrication should be sufficient, as is the case for the throw-out bearing, which I replaced with a more suitable SKF 7200 angular contact bearing.

I will post some feedback on how I get on in use. Hope that helps
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Hi norseXL

Nice work on the trap door! I bought a Zipper trap door in the end but I find that it is the clutch basket 6009 bearing that still fails first. It is also worth using loctite bearing fix on the inner hub when pressing it up.

I have linked details of how to buy a Koyo japan made NUP1009 bearing with machined brass cage on the link: http://xlforum.net/forums/s....php?t=1434936
Mine arrived after ten days and cost £25 from NOKs bearings. NOKs had them in stock. Or you can also special order them in Europe for big money and it will take months.

If you follow my other link to the HDRCGB website you see photos and diagrams of the bearing. It is three piece design with a thrust ring so the inner encloses the rollers when pressed up. You will see it is much stronger than a 6009. It is an open design, so the oil mist lubrication should be sufficient, as is the case for the throw-out bearing, which I replaced with a more suitable SKF 7200 angular contact bearing.

I will post some feedback on how I get on in use. Hope that helps
I would definetely have gone for the 1009 bearing if I had not been doing the support bearing fix,
however, with the support it is not needed.
Jepp, the angular contact throw-out bearing is a good one, I went for that myself after being stuck down-town Oslo without a clutch...

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