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If an XLCR had the highest hp rating, What was it? And what was done to it to make it higher than a CH or H of the same year? What was the CH rated at.
I've never seen factory HP numbers. The XLCR has different carb jetting and with the Siamese exhaust was supposedly good for a bump in HP over the XLH and XLCH due to better breathing. Probably made a very minor difference. It was enough for period advertising copy that talked how this was the most powerful production bike Harley had ever built.

By 1977 the only difference between the XLCH and XLH is kick versus electric. Frames and engines are the same. The XLCH would be faster than the XLH and XLCR because it is lighter. Although the XLCR came with a different front sprocket which would make it initially quicker.
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All I know is that I want one, but like everything else the rich guys get into collecting, it doesn't take long to exceed my price range..............
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Had a 73 Yamaha TX-750 twin that was pretty quick and handled well enough for the time period. I can't compare that to my XLH except for memory.
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By "contemporary brothers" I meant the 1000cc XLH and XLCH. I'm not sure if you are referring to the Norton or XLCR, but yes I have been on one. I have owned 750 and 850 Commandos, Tridents, A75s, as well as Triumph and BSA twins, square case and modern Ducatis. The XLCR could hang with the 650s as far as speed goes but not handling. The 750s were faster. Of all the bikes listed above, other than the Ducatis obviously, my 1972 Norton Combat was the fastest.... and yes it blew up. Others may have different experiences.
I was referencing the XLCR when I asked if you had ever been on one....they rode like shit...no leverage with the drag bars and the shocks sucked.
I put Koni's on the XLCH day 1 when I found the OEM's defective and Harley recalled them....6 month wait for new ones....told Ed Stokes that i was not waiting that long as the bike was unrideable...I asked about paying the difference in price of the OEM and Koni knowing full well how expensive a Koni was....Ed said take them....price difference.......$15.00 TOTAL.
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I've never seen factory HP numbers. The XLCR has different carb jetting and with the Siamese exhaust was supposedly good for a bump in HP over the XLH and XLCH due to better breathing. Probably made a very minor difference. It was enough for period advertising copy that talked how this was the most powerful production bike Harley had ever built.

By 1977 the only difference between the XLCH and XLH is kick versus electric. Frames and engines are the same. The XLCH would be faster than the XLH and XLCR because it is lighter. Although the XLCR came with a different front sprocket which would make it initially quicker.
NO...CR had triangulated tail section with rectangular swing arm and rear disc...precursor to the 1979....I think the front of the frame was the same
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NO...CR had triangulated tail section with rectangular swing arm and rear disc...precursor to the 1979....I think the front of the frame was the same
Jeeze.... I wrote the XLH and XLCH had the same frame, not the XLCR. The XLCR had the same front section as the other two but a rear section similar to the XR. As was the snap on seat and a tank more or less an elongated XR. At least that was the inspiration according to Willie G.
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Probably the best looking OEM Sportster ever , but a boat anchor with a fairing on it none the less.

Twice the money of a KZ1000 , wonder why they didn't sell well?

Very collectable today BECAUSE they didn't sell well. Ain't life strange?
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Yep, I slagged a 1000cc Ironhead. They are slow. It's OK, I own one anyway. My eyes are wide open about it. I also a 900cc Triumph "modern classic". Another boat anchor. Its still fun. My girl's Ducati Scrambler has the same engine size as the Triumph. Kills it. Like the Triumph was standing still, but they all make me giggle like a fat school girl when I ride them.

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Shoot me if you want to but after riding the Ironhead for a while I think my Kawasaki VN-700 Vulcan is much quicker. Maybe not as fun and stylish as the XLH but definitely quicker. The DOHC dual plug heads make all the difference. HP is rated at 60 on the Vulcan. So, I cant see this XLCR being a rocket by any means.
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HD didn't really say anything specific about the CR engines as I recall. only that they were hand selected, or specially selected or some such thing.

A specially selected tractor engine is still a tractor engine.
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