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26th January 2023
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 3,366 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Originally Posted by sungod
Of course it's your decision just pointing out another option for lot's less expense.
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Yes, but you better be sure you won't want more later, 'cause if you do, what you spent doing the 883 to 1200 upgrade was money wasted.
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27th January 2023
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ny
Posts: 803 Sportster/Buell Model: sportster stroker xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1970 Sportster/Buell Model #2: sportster xlh Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1973 Other Motorcycle Model: 99 inch sportster Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
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Originally Posted by Tomcatt
Yes, but you better be sure you won't want more later, 'cause if you do, what you spent doing the 883 to 1200 upgrade was money wasted.
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The 03 883 sportster is one of the best platforms to start with when hot rodding. You can get close to 80 hp from the modified stock parts. 65% increase and can drive with reliability. Of course if and when you want more power yes you will need more advanced parts to get there. Then there is the rub: Do you want to spend +6k ? Maybe money saved not money wasted is a prudent approach.
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27th January 2023
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pottstown PA.
Posts: 15,969 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH stroker Sportster/Buell Year: 1960 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 C Sportster/Buell Year #2: '03
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i've always been surprised by how many 883's have been sold.why not skip over the upgrade and just start with a 1200? i wouldn't have bought an 883,i inherited it from my father.been riding an 1190 ironhead since '78.
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27th January 2023
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Posts: 803 Sportster/Buell Model: sportster stroker xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1970 Sportster/Buell Model #2: sportster xlh Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1973 Other Motorcycle Model: 99 inch sportster Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
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Originally Posted by brucstoudt
i've always been surprised by how many 883's have been sold.why not skip over the upgrade and just start with a 1200?i wouldn't have bought an 883,i inherited it from my father.been riding an 1190 ironhead since '78.
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Just an opinion here but there are new riders that want to say they ride a harley and go out and buy a sportster 883 get the s**t scared out of them and sell. I think the hugger also was designed for shorter legged people which actually works well for hot rods. Then you get some 1200 buyers who also get s**t scared and sell. In any event the inventory for low mileage sportsters will be with us for a little while and then there will be loads of parts on ebay.
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27th January 2023
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Join Date: May 2010
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Posts: 15,969 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH stroker Sportster/Buell Year: 1960 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 C Sportster/Buell Year #2: '03
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Originally Posted by sungod
In any event the inventory for low mileage sportsters will be with us for a little while and then there will be loads of parts on ebay.
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this is encouraging because,they don't make them anymore!
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27th January 2023
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: On a farm
Posts: 7,238 Sportster/Buell Model: XL77.2R Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
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And by 2040, when the wokes will be elected in office, we will only allowed to show them in a glass shielded chest.
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28th January 2023
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dubois, WY
Posts: 4,174 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200S Sportster/Buell Year: 2001 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLH-883D Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1988 Other Motorcycle Model: FXDXT Other Motorcycle Year: 2001
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Many areas including Europe have tiered MC license and insurance levels,
900cc being one of the steps.
It wasn't till '86 that you had a choice of engine sizes on a new bike.
Also many people forget that the whole SE line of performance parts were originally for Sportster only, they did not make SE parts for BTs until later.
I can't find it now but isn't there a MC racing that requires the MFG to sell bikes of that class and size?
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Originally Posted by brucstoudt
i've always been surprised by how many 883's have been sold.why not skip over the upgrade and just start with a 1200?i wouldn't have bought an 883,i inherited it from my father.been riding an 1190 ironhead since '78.
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28th January 2023
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Originally Posted by rejeanprimeau
And by 2040, when the wokes will be elected in office, we will only allowed to show them in a glass shielded chest.
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Don't despair, people still ride horses.
John
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28th January 2023
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Don't despair, people still ride horses.
John
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Yes, and those poor horses are now feeded with low methane emission oat.
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29th January 2023
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2022
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I am aware of the cylinder liner thickness has changed over the years, all the cylinders that I am boring out are pre 2007, I am not interested in purchasing any 1200 cylinder kits as I have acquired several 883 cylinders that I will be boring to 1200 so I can get the exact piston to cylinder clearance that I want for the engine builds that I am doing.
The 883 cylinder skirt end has a much more pronounce chamfer which is closer to the cylinder base than a stock 1200 cylinder skirt, so when the ID of an 883 cylinder is bored out some of this chamfer is cut away due to the boring process which will cause the skirt to become shorter by about .100" so my question is how short of a cylinder skirt is still considered acceptable?
I have noticed a lot of suggestions of using torque plates while boring, I have measured both 883 & 1200 cylinders with torque plates and without torque plates and I do not see any change in dimensions.
Just wondering if there is machinist who has actually done the machining of 883 to 1200 cylinders themselves that can answer my questions. Thanks
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