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Hi Everyone!

Been a lurker for some time, but I can't seem to find the answer so I made the leap and created an account. As the title indicates, I am the proud owner of a 2018 Iron 1200, that I would like to raise. I want to do this for comfort (my bike nose dives pretty hard while braking, and I want to stop bottoming out with potholes and whatnot), but also for functionality (I want to be able to hop curbs and minimally irregular terrain without fear), and style (I've decided to try out a higher more tracker/scrambler look for the bike and will be changing out the mini-apes for a different set of handlebars, though more on this later).

Some context about the setup: I am around 190lbs before gear, and my partner is about 105 before gear; I often switch between single and two-up riding; most of my riding is done in or around urban agglomerations, but I do take day trips two-up; I like a sportier ride.

Hopefully this helps frame my use cases and rationale for effecting these changes, and can therefore help anyone answer my questions. Also if anything has been explained appropriately anywhere else; please do link me, I am more than happy to read anything, just can't seem to find the answers handily.

My questions are as follows:

Shocks
  • Are there restrictions on the length of rear shocks for the 2018? Specifically, I've read contradictory information on whether belt drives interfered with anything more than 14" on late year sporties?
  • In the entry-level bracket of rear shocks, are there any particular differences between brands below $400 especially given my aforementioned use cases? Right now I'm seeing the Burly Stilettos, Progressive 412 & 430, RacingBros Bazookas, and Drag Specialties Adjustable Shocks. Is this a fair survey of the spectrum of possibilities?
  • Are the quality of shocks accurately reflected in pricing? And if so, what are the major price tranches? At which point are we getting into diminishing marginal returns?

Forks
Now on the forks I have some similar questions:
  • On the 2018 xl1200ns I have a cartridge in my fork, and I've read that eliminating it using a kit is beneficial? What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so?
  • How do Racetech valves come into play based on the above question?
  • What is the most performance-oriented (ie: not sacrificing ride-ability) way to raise the forks? Is it with lengthened damper tubes?
  • Any recommendations for specific springs based on my use cases?
  • Are 1” damper adjusters enough to make a serious difference?
  • Similarly as for shocks: what are the various price points/brackets we're looking at here?
  • This isn’t specific to suspension I guess, but are fork braces actually useful on lighter bikes like the xl? The sticky has many positive reviews, but just curious if that has changed over the years?

Anyway, apologies for the many questions, I appreciate you taking the time to read this far. I'm happy to clarify any of the above if I didn't express something correctly or am assuming based on erroneous information.

Yella

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This is THE BEST Sportster Resource!

Take a minute and please put at least your state/country in the LOCATION FIELD of your profile so we can better help you when you need it - Your climate, temps & altitude can make a difference to suggested fixes... (the STATE FIELD does not show on posts so you need to use the LOCATION FIELD)...

CLICK HERE - then scroll down to 'Additional Information' and look for the field labeled 'LOCATION' - put your information in there - It will then show on each post you make... Look for this:


Post a PICTURE of your ride... Host the image on a photo website (but not photobucket.com), get the link with the "[IMG][/IMG] tags" included & paste that directly into your posting (If you don't have the "[IMG][/IMG] tags" included, then use the Image Insert icon along with the web address of the image)...

There are various sections to the XLForum - You can pick a section that is related to your problem/info, open that section and read the sticky threads on the first page - Then post your comment in an existing thread or create a new one to get information for your specific question... For new threads, make the title specific to your problem or info...

This is the index of sections: http://xlforum.net/forums/index.php
Be sure to read some/many of the FAQ/HowTo threads (including how-to post pictures) here:
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The Sportsterpedia has a lot of technical info to review:
http://sportsterpedia.com

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You may find these sections of the Sportsterpedia informative:
Stock Front Forks:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/techtalk:evo:susp01
Stock Rear Shocks:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/techtalk:evo:susp02

But aftermarket info is here - Look for the Suspension section:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...cal_categories
Suspension - Details - 7-Pages Theory, Set-Up, Tuning
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/techtalk:ref:susp07


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A warm welcome from France!

Have a read through the forums for ideas on raising the bike, there have been quite a few recently who have done just that.
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Wanting to hop curbs....guess that must be a new thing.....I don't even know what you are talking about .....I mean you want to hop curbs on purpose? Damn, you can learn a lot in here.
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Welcome. Curb hopping requires some expensive parts, more so for a 560lb bike. I had a 2005 KLR650 I paid $3500 for and added $1200 worth of suspension work and I got off cheap. I would go over some curbs, though.

I spent days reading the Suspension threads.

Here's a good place to start... The suspension section:
http://xlforum.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36
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Also checkout DK Custom Suspension section. http://www.dkcustomproducts.com/fram...ion-c2-221.htm

http://www.dkcustomproducts.com/dk-c...s-tst-rp-i.htm

http://www.dkcustomproducts.com/over...-shocks-74.htm
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