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This is the issue between the frame and engine.
I'm not sure how much room you have on a rubbermount.


There is up and down play in the driveshaft of all Sportster gerotor oil pumps but that is by design.
The only point the driveshaft is attached to the pump housing is at the retaining ring point on the shaft.
This is a preset point in the assembly. There is no spec for excess play.
The circlip either holds or your driveshaft comes up and hits a cam.
You can remove the retaining ring and inspect the surface under it on the housing.
But that's usually not an issue unless the circlip is weak etc.
This being older but the same concept.
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So the socket might not fit between it and the frame? I don't use my allen wrenches much. Maybe I'll just cut my 3/16 into a straight one to put a 3/16 socket on and be done with it. I'm ready to get this done and tempted to rear it apart now but I don't want to leave it out opened up for 3 days if the pump doesn't come til Monday. I'm doing it outside rather than the garage down the street I park in. Maybe I'll rethink that. Just that the garage is so dusty if I get a fan going and I have to haul everything down there. Outside I just have to waterproof it if it rains but I have a breeze and it's brighter.
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So the socket might not fit between it and the frame?
That's the general problem.
There are many ways to skin a cat though.
It's just easier if you have the right tool for the job.
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That's the general problem.
There are many ways to skin a cat though.
It's just easier if you have the right tool for the job.
I'm a firm believer in having the tools to make it easy. Cutting an allen wrench will definitely work if need be.
Just checked with Surdyke on the gasket. It comes with the gasket, oring, new bolts, and hose clamps. Everything that's needed to change it out properly.
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The Napa one fits
I keep 2 in my tool box
Works on rocker cover bolts as well !
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I use the above pictured setup on the rocker covers. Hey, what's another tool right?
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What's the process for priming the new pump or is it necessary?
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The book says just to liberally coat the moving parts with oil.

Aaron says to simply lather the insides with assembly lube or such.
I used Lucas assembly lube on mine, no problems.
You just need something in there that won't sling out too fast so it creates a hydro seal to begin sucking on the feed line on startup.
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Makes sense. I'm about to pull the cam cover and mod it.
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