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Unhappy Engine light and red key - won't start 2005 XL883

I was out on a ride the other day and noticed my indicators weren't working. Then I noticed my engine light was on and the red key light lit up.

I got home and turned it off and back on and the lights were still showing and it wouldn't turn over. Not even a click.

Engine codes it's throwing up are: U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ECM, P1010 Missing Password and U1255 Serial Data Error.

I tried a friend's ignition module and starter relay but same. I have headlight, brake lights, horn only. Checked battery terminals are tight and all fuses have been replaced.

Any help would be appreciated. The only thing I can think of is the bank angle sensor? I wonder if it should run without it plugged in or is there a bypass? Oh, and there's no key fob - no security. Thanks
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What is battery voltage?
What is voltage at fuse block?

Is yours a TSSM or TSM? If TSSM it may have failed or wiring / connector issue to TSSM.

Does cycling stop/run switch make a difference?

I am traveling (Colorado) and do not have access to schematics, so a few questions:
Does 2005 have a sidestand switch?
Does 2005 have a BAS separate from ICM?

Since brake lights and horn work, it is not an accessory circuit issue, unless TSM connector or wire close to TSM.

For benefit of other responses, OP is in England and likely an international model
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'04-'06 do not have a sidestand switch and the BAS is an integral part of the TSM/TSSM. You need a breakout box to diag. the DTC U1064.

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If you're having issues with the electrical system, here's the Sportsterpedia section on checking the battery cables, voltages and grounds - DO THIS BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...place_to_start

Then be sure to check your power train ground stud - behind the primary case, near the starter motor...
Sportsterpedia - Check your Grounds

Here's the General Troubleshooting section, including Engine Won't Turn Over:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...k:ref:genmsr01

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It is for the security system, also the turn signals and the turn signal cancel, you most likely have a turn signal bulb out.
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What is battery voltage?
What is voltage at fuse block?

Is yours a TSSM or TSM? If TSSM it may have failed or wiring / connector issue to TSSM.

Does cycling stop/run switch make a difference?

I am traveling (Colorado) and do not have access to schematics, so a few questions:
Does 2005 have a sidestand switch?
Does 2005 have a BAS separate from ICM?

Since brake lights and horn work, it is not an accessory circuit issue, unless TSM connector or wire close to TSM.

For benefit of other responses, OP is in England and likely an international model
Hi, thanks for your reply. I checked the battery voltage and it is 12.7 but 11.27 at the fuse box. Does this mean there is a problem between the battery and fuse box or is this difference normal?

Cycling the run switch: if the switch is on run, the symbols show on the speedo. If set to stop the lights go out. But still no crank.

I did unplug all the cables in the loom and clean them with WD40 and re-connected them and now there is something different. I have a flashing red key and a clicking starter relay.
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How old is the battery? Sounds like it needs to be replaced. Remove battery and take it to a place that can do a load test. Just because it shows voltage does not mean it has enough amperage to start the motorcycle. As a battery ages, the plates inside wear out and produce less amps as there is less surface area. Check the voltage while trying to start the motorcycle, it will probably show 8 VDC or less when you hit the starter button. Good Luck!
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The battery is fully charged. I also tried starting with jump leads on from my running car. Still nothing.

Now the relay is not clicking again like before... I checked the starter by running a wire from the positive on the battery to the starter solenoid and it turned over. I checked the wire from the starter relay to the solenoid and it's good.
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Have you checked all as IXL2Relax suggested in post #4?
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From the Sportsterpedia link above...

Set your meter on 20vDC scale - Then follow down the list - Report back your voltages:

Power must travel from/to the following:

1 Battery
2 Main Fuse/CircuitBreaker
3 Keyswitch - In/Out
4 Ignition Circuit Fuse/CB
5 Kill Switch (if used) - In/Out
6 Start Button - In/Out
7 Starter Relay - In/Out
8 Starter Solenoid - In/Out
9 Starter Motor - In

As a quick test to identify what part of the circuit
is not getting or passing power, set your meter on 20vDC scale
and test for voltage at these locations:

-1- At the Battery
-2- Incoming to the Main Fuse
-4- Incoming to the Ignition Fuse
-8- Incoming to the Solenoid

The Power Train Ground, when corroded inside the threads, has been known to create all kinds of weird errors...

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