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Who says what happens?
Is that a butterfly?
I have more trouble remembering what day it is.

Are you talking about the 10.2" rotors?
edit: I tried to PM you after I got this done but your box was full.
So my response was late pending when you emptied it.

The first smaller disc was originaly used on the L08 XR1200 intro model.
Other 2008 models still had 11.5" front and back.
2009 XR1200:
– Front 11.5 (44156-00) x .20 in. (292.10 mm x 5.08 mm)
– Rear 10.2 (41833-08) (260 mm)

2011 883's reportedly adopted the 10.6" rear disc.
The 41833-08 part# did not change with the newer sizes (if the 10.2 and 10.6 sizes are factual).
The XR-1200 debuted in Europe with a 10.24" disc.
So, it is unclear if the US version was that size or the 10.5" as the other were in 2011.
But, the part number is the same for them as well as the XR.

Most but not all 1200s ran the bigger disc at least for a while.

2011 883L: ((https://bikez.com/motorcycles/harley...erlow_2011.php))
– Front 11.5 (44156-00) x .20 in. (292.10 mm x 5.08 mm)
– Rear 10.6 (41833-08) (269 mm)

I've added to 2008 (XR1200 only):
Brake rotors: 416)
Front rotors 11.5“ x .20” (292.10 mm x 5.08 mm) uniform expansion type.
Rear rotors 10.24“ x .28” (260 mm x 7.01 mm)

I've added to 2011:
883L, 883N, 883R and 1200L receive new 10-1/2“ rear brake rotor (cast wheels only).
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Hippy:
Yeah, this was the matter I'd brought up. I knew H-D had gone to a 10.2" rear rotor but I didn't know what year. My 06 XL883 has an 11.5" [292mm] rear rotor of course and it doesn't stop too well. However according to Eric Buell a bike's rear brake should never be able to stop it however he's a racing fan and so I don't pay much attention to his theory. Anyhow I'm going to start work on my rear brake upgrade which is a new [slightly used] Performance Machine 125X4SL 4 piston caliper. I have to machine down an old used 1" brake bracket and mount a new adapter plate to get it to fit up right. I'll put in a new post when I do this. I'm still working on my HRS42 Mikuni conversion. Also I've got all the side mount hardware ['14 and up] and I'll also convert my bike over to use the new master cylinder hardware. I figure it'll give me more stopping power because the 14+ calipers had twin pistons so I suspect H-D put more flow into the 14+ master cylinders. We'll see!
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Good news.
I'd be nice to have pics of the process.

Yeah, the front has most of the stopping power.
Truthfully, a good balance of front and rear works the best.
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I think you are wasting your time playing around with the rear brakes. I run 11.5 inch disk with a Frankenstein billet 4 piston calliper on the rear. I also have a trike conversion running a 9" Ford truck axle and two 15" light truck tires that are just over 7 inches wide. The single disk will lock the rear tires up and slide them on dry pavement. There really is no point in putting more stopping power on the rear when the contact patch between the rear tires and pavement will not hold any more. I have far more contact patch than most any other Sportster rear and the single 11.5 disk is enough to slide the rear tires. Anything more is just overkill.

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Makes me smile every time I see your trike Graywolf.
I just added your lift strap pics here about an hour ago.
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"I think you are wasting your time playing around with the rear brakes."
However, I think your 4 piston "Frankenstein" caliper puts out considerably more stopping power then the stock single piston unit. Is that an aftermarket or a one off? I checked it out in the pic but it's too small to make out very well.
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"I think you are wasting your time playing around with the rear brakes."
However, I think your 4 piston "Frankenstein" caliper puts out considerably more stopping power then the stock single piston unit. Is that an aftermarket or a one off? I checked it out in the pic but it's too small to make out very well.
It is available as after market. It comes with the trike axle kits, but I had to replace mine one time and they will sell it separately.

http://www.frankensteintrikes.com/contact_us.html
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In the oil cooler section you might add to / update the Jagg adapter info, they have a new adapter they say is needed for Sportsters (although many Sportsters use the 4700 adapter)

This page:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/techtalk:refil14

New Jagg Sportster adapter:
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At the bottom it says:
"The # 4550 is required for oil cooler installation on 2004-On Sportsters."
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Thanks.
I'm just in the initial stages of that page. I'll add that to it.
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Here is a pdf showing the difference in the XR and XL clutch and transmission shaft bearing and spacer.

Converting to a pdf did jumble the pages the spreadsheet was alittle too big to attach (with the parts list drawings)
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