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I have some bad tappets.
I dont have much money right now.
I want to ride my bike.
My question is has anyone used any of the replacement Tappet roller kits?
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/4300368
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/431-458

and what EXACTLY is a radius crimping anvil? i know only the "JIMS" ones, which cost twice as much, say you need one,
But Im guessing youd need one either way.
Could I use a 20 ton press? Have lots of different Metal rods, at least one with a rounded end (about like a half of a 1/2" ball bearing) etc to use with it.
So anyone done it?
Do you drill the old ones out? Grind the ends off and press out?
Any help would be appreciated to see if this is doable for me.
$55 versus $150-200 could mean an extra 2-3 weeks right now.
and summer is half over here.....
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Back with more questions.
I have some bad tappets.
I dont have much money right now.
I want to ride my bike.
My question is has anyone used any of the replacement Tappet roller kits?
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/4300368
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/431-458

and what EXACTLY is a radius crimping anvil? i know only the "JIMS" ones, which cost twice as much, say you need one,
But Im guessing youd need one either way.
Could I use a 20 ton press? Have lots of different Metal rods, at least one with a rounded end (about like a half of a 1/2" ball bearing) etc to use with it.
So anyone done it?
Do you drill the old ones out? Grind the ends off and press out?
Any help would be appreciated to see if this is doable for me.
$55 versus $150-200 could mean an extra 2-3 weeks right now.
and summer is half over here.....
Do not get the first link, imported ones. 10-1 they are junk. You get what you pay for, and Jims are quality products, and quality products are the only kind that should go in your bike.

I'll leave the other questions to others.
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i would just buy new ones, pop em in and ride. less headache. dont have to worry about proper installation of those pins. sure its a little more expensive, but could be cheaper in the long run if one of those pins decided it didnt want to install correctly and falls out into your motor and tears it up. going the cheaper route isnt always the cheaper route.
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I cant believe I missed that lol.
Just got armature, via my local dealer,From Harley Davidson milwaukee Wisconsin....marked Just above the address....Made in Taiwan.
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if you dont have the proper equipent or,experience,i,would not attempt this.if you think your tappets are bad now.attempting this could put you into more serious,trouble. buy quality replacement tappets,and reinstall.
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Buy the roller kits from the dealer. They're still available. P/N 18534-29A. They don't require any "special" tools to replace. The OEM roller axles are NOT a heavy press fit in the lifter body. The axles aren't even that "hard" and the end will deform quite easily. H-D riders have been replacing them on the workbench, the side of the road, in motel rooms, etc., for over 80yrs.. If there was a problem with them I'm pretty sure the MoCo would have quit selling them a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago.

And yeah, Jim's lifter axles are a HEAVY press fit. In fact, it's such a heavy press fit that even Jim's won't replace the rollers in their lifters. If it wears out, you get to buy new lifters, regardless of the mileage on them, because Jim's won't warranty them for premature wear.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

MN Mailman, good eye, your right, I Dont want imported ones if I can avoid it. But right now the JIMS ones are out of budget and I dont have the tool required (though I think a friend may, gotta catch up with him)

Mike, I would Love to buy some new ones and pop them in.....I just dont have the money for that right now and Id like to ride before September. I have all winter for new Tappets. Good ones. Or By September I should haver some extra money for new good tappets I may end up having to go this route..

Brucstoudt, I Dont have the exact done this job before experience, I dont know exactly what tools are needed so I dont know If I have oor have access to them, And as above...would love to put new quality tappets in, but that is probably late August or September away money wise.

Rivethog, from your post you seem to think it is a doable thing..roadside is my specialty I rebuilt the rear driveshaft in my 4x4 Bronco in the driveway of the machine shop Yesterday with a pair of longnose pliers, a Screwdriver, 12mm wrench and a hammer after driving 35 miles in front wheel drive to get there.
If as your post suggests you have done this, could you tell me what tools Ill need? any thing in particular to watch for? How you did it?
Ive found some Sifton rollers, are these a better choice?
I will call my dealer in the morning to see if they have or can get me some.
I would love to hear more.
Thank you all once more for the help and ideas.
Keep them coming
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Default Tell ya what...

I did it years ago, tried it again and failed... Put the old roller in the vise, just the roller.. Drill out both sides of the pin, do not hit with a punch, this can and will split the plunger! Make sure you have the pin loose then just push the old pin and roller out by hand.. Once you have the new pin and roller in I just used a large center punch to set both sides, laying the opposing side flat on a solid surface, then moved to a press with a punch attachment and finished it off.. Be aware, I screwed mine up this time, then got pissed and bought a set of tappets and housings.. Murphy has a way of catching up, and kicking your ass..
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Back with more questions.
I have some bad tappets.
I dont have much money right now.
I want to ride my bike.
My question is has anyone used any of the replacement Tappet roller kits?
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/4300368
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/431-458

and what EXACTLY is a radius crimping anvil? i know only the "JIMS" ones, which cost twice as much, say you need one,
But Im guessing youd need one either way.
Could I use a 20 ton press? Have lots of different Metal rods, at least one with a rounded end (about like a half of a 1/2" ball bearing) etc to use with it.
So anyone done it?
Do you drill the old ones out? Grind the ends off and press out?
Any help would be appreciated to see if this is doable for me.
$55 versus $150-200 could mean an extra 2-3 weeks right now.
and summer is half over here.....
I saw a nice set on ebay today I think out of a 80/ there are multple sets enter ironhead sportster tappets in search.... these look the best you can see the whole tappet

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Sportst...984362&vxp=mtr
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Ponderosa,
Hate to bring up bad memeories...but what did you do wrong this time?
I figure a mistake is a lesson, and I can learn from yours as well as my own...what should I NOT do? Were you using a hand drill? or did you have the vise in a drill press?
Cause I dont need ANOTHER visit from Mr Murphy...he's been here the past 2 weeks! lol
Thanks.
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