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I don't see 9.1:1 anywhere?
04 883s were 8.9:1
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I don't see 9.1:1 anywhere?
04 883s were 8.9:1
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Huh? 04 1200 says 9.1

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Here is what I found in the Owner's Manual Specs (2003, 2004. 2007), Sportster Pedia (cam changes) and Hammer (head changes)

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+------+--------+-------------+----------+------+---------+---------------------------+-------------------+
|      |        | compression | torque   |      |         |                           |                   |
|      |        | ratio       | Ft / Lbs | rpm  |         |                           |                   |
| 2003 | 883    | 9.0         | 49.0     | 4500 |  D cams |                           |                   |
|      | 1200   | 9.0         | 68.0     | 4000 |  D cams |                           |                   |
|      | 1200 S | 10.0        | 72.0     | 4000 | W cams  |                           |                   |
|      |        |             |          |      |         |                           |                   |
| 2004 | 883    | 8.9         | 51.0     | 4300 |  D cams |                           |                   |
|      | 1200   | 9.1         | 79.0     | 3500 | W cams  | Head change 62 cc chamber | larger 7mm valves |
|      |        |             |          |      |         |                           |                   |
| 2007 | 883    | 8.9         | 55.0     | 3500 | W cams  |                           |                   |
|      | 1200   | 9.7         | 79.1     | 4000 | W cams  |                           |                   |
+------+--------+-------------+----------+------+---------+---------------------------+-------------------+
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I thought you were talking about the wiki.
I haven't been able to verify the others yet.
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The 2004 1200 and 1200R are both listed at 9.7:1 in the owners manual. My mistake in the chart earlier.


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Shanneba, the quoted torque figures seem to have remained broadly consistent over the years which is what you might expect.
I was talking about BHP. Not so easy to find power figures, so I used the EPA motorcycle emissions data download from 2015 -
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Thanks for the link.
I'm almost done with Evos but they don't have 2001 info there that I could find.
If any body has that info, I need to verify it before plugging it in.

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Shanneba, the quoted torque figures seem to have remained broadly consistent over the years which is what you might expect.
I was talking about BHP. Not so easy to find power figures, so I used the EPA motorcycle emissions data download from 2015 -
then converted to BHP from KW.
Can you show us how to go about finding that info and calculating?


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My '05 owners handbook says
883.. 51.0ft lbs@4300rpm comp' ratio 8.9-1
1200.. 79.0ft lbs@3500rpm comp ratio 9.7-1
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Thanks guys,
I got 86 up except 2011, 2014, 2017,2018 and 2019.
I'll use this also this to finish filling in the individual history sections when I can get back to them.

Officially we know that the MoCo stopped including BHP in 2001 and torque values in 2011 or 2012.


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