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to clear a few things up, I do have bags on my BT, but they are soft and removable, I have owned touring bikes and they are nice I just think for me they are just to heavy, I prefer a much lighter bike.
now twice a month I jump on the BT and ride 4 hours to my house for the weekend, the rest of the time I am on my current project I run around Phoenix on my sporty, and when I do I use a back pack.

Bottom line is this, I love my sporty for the lightweight it is, I have it producing about 90 ponies and that is good for me. I have a blast on it. I have never been able to say, since the first sporty I got 30 plus years ago, that I have never not had fun on a sporty.

I have owned a ton of Jap rice rockets too, and they were fun, but I keep coming back to HD for one reason, the sportster is a great bike.

Bottom Line is the sportster is my favorite HD product and always has been.

Yesterday I wen down to Chandler HD where they were having demo rides all day and rode a few M8 equipped bikes, the 114 motor is real nice, but it kept cooking my right leg, I got annoyed with that real fast. but out of the box it is the first HD I have ever rode that had the torque and power you want in a bike. Unfortunately it is near the end of the air cooled v twin getting past smog, if you want one buy it in the next few years as water cooling is in the near future to remain compliant.

I jest a lot about not putting bags on a sporty, but if you want that, it is your bike. I have run miles with a set of soft bags thrown over the rear seat of a sporty.

Also I like to call some thing unique about sportys the PEANUT CLUB. That is the super small tanks and taking them out on road trips. I mean guys complain we have to fill up to much, I just tell them I have an excuse to stop and smell the roses. I am not about to set any mileage records for the a day with my 2.2 tank on my current sporty, but you know, I do not care I plan my rides with places to stop and explore.

SO we all need to enjoy our sportys how we decide to deck them out, we all need to realize the best thing about HD products is that they are like a blank canvas when we get them and we make them our own. And we need to recognize that HD is doing what they have to in order to move forward into the future as a profitable business that will supply our children the opportunity to enjoy the life we have had riding motorcycles. I know they have helped me.

If there is a Revolution X product that will soon replace the sporty, I will be bummed, but I have said it before, I got my 2016 Sportster 48 because I saw it coming and I wanted a current Sportster when they got replaced.

Long Live the Sportster.
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In addition to "48X", H-D also applied for a trademark for "Bronx". The Kansas City plant will close around July 2019.

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- Will the first "Sportsters" built at York (2020 model year) be powered by Revolution X motors?
- Will they be called "Sportsters"?
- Should any model powered by a Revolution X motor be called a "Sportster"?
You know, I would hate to see them put any other engine in the Sportster
I would rather see the line discontinued
I truly believe that the engine made the Sportster what it is
Iron head or Evo it does not matter, it is the 4 cam all in one air cooled engine that we all have loved. For reasons of respect, HD should not in any way call any bike without that engine a Sportster. 60 plus years, that demands respect.
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You know, I would hate to see them put any other engine in the Sportster
I would rather see the line discontinued
I truly believe that the engine made the Sportster what it is
Iron head or Evo it does not matter, it is the 4 cam all in one air cooled engine that we all have loved. For reasons of respect, HD should not in any way call any bike without that engine a Sportster. 60 plus years, that demands respect.
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Well except that in this case he's not even a politician, he's just a straight con-man.
wow... here I thought that for sure harley riders wouldnt think that way. the Con Man left office in 2016.
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I still hope harley does a GM style refresh of the 2 valve engine. GM can get 1.2HP per CI, all the while having a smooth idle, meeting more stringent automotive emissions, driving accessories, ect. For sure Harley could get the 2 valve set up to put out more power.
If they must go the easy way out, I guess a 883 or 1000 X motor would do.
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having buell still around would be nice. maybe they can bring them back?
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wow... here I thought that for sure harley riders wouldnt think that way. the Con Man left office in 2016.
You know that's straight up bullshyte.

I don't vote straight party.

I also know the difference between politics and lies.

You can disagree with policy all you want.

You can have different priorities or differ on how to solve a problem.

That's way different than being so insecure you have to beat your chest and sing your own praises when telling easily verifiable lies.

I'll say this, his instability (which I don't buy as an act) has not been all negative in terms of some negotiations. But politics generally requires a much more stable hand than business. One can always (and this one certainly has) given up and declared bankruptcy when business goes wrong. You can't do the same if you start a war.
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I still hope harley does a GM style refresh of the 2 valve engine. GM can get 1.2HP per CI, all the while having a smooth idle, meeting more stringent automotive emissions, driving accessories, ect. For sure Harley could get the 2 valve set up to put out more power.
If they must go the easy way out, I guess a 883 or 1000 X motor would do.
Well obviously there's both an issue of scale and the air-cooled elephant in the room. Those are the big issues why GM is kinda irrelevant when comparing with Harley.
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Well obviously there's both an issue of scale and the air-cooled elephant in the room. Those are the big issues why GM is kinda irrelevant when comparing with Harley.
the largest gains for GMs LS engines were Cylinder head design. Harley could vastly improve their port designs, posibly go to a duel throttle body.
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the largest gains for GMs LS engines were Cylinder head design. Harley could vastly improve their port designs, posibly go to a duel throttle body.
We're still comparing water-cooling to air-cooling so they're other worlds.

And then if you go dual throttle bodies you're going against the tide (which is going the other direction for simplicity/maintenance).

Hell even Moto-Guzzi (one of the only air-cooled only manufacturers) has gone to single throttle bodies in recent years.
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