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2004 1200. Replaced my clutch in 2016 with the extra plate Barnett kit.

For the last couple seasons Ive noticed my upshifting is becoming more labored and I'm missing shifts more often in mid-high rpm range. Downshifting there's no problem. With forwards and mid controls. It feels the gears feel sloppy and theres no real feeling of definite engagement when upshifting. I thought it might be just rider error but it's definitely not that. I'm seemingly having to focus more on my upshifting to get cleaner shifts. Again it happens more when the bike gets hot and Ive been riding for 15-20 mins. Im not getting any strange noises when shifting.

I've re-adjusted the primary chain, inner clutch, hand lever and fluid level by the book too many times at this point. Theres something wrong.

Could it just be my barnett clutch burning out? Hoping it's not a tranny issue.

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I'm missing shifts more often in mid-high rpm range.
If you've been shifting hard & fast, it might just be the springs...

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I ride pretty sensibly in general, ride it hard on occasion. I dont do burnouts or wheelies.
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Back off the primary chain adjustment a tad {1/8 turn} even if its "by the book".
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Back off the primary chain adjustment a tad {1/8 turn} even if its "by the book".
correct...
and change primary oil with a good gear oil...
a bit more often
i do this each time I change the motor oil...

now my upshift in 3 rd is much better

that is one of the advantages...
for ride a well known bike...
a model changed only a little over the years...
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Back off the primary chain adjustment a tad {1/8 turn} even if its "by the book".

correct...
also put in a good brand new expensive and syn gear oil (fitted for gears and clutches altogether)

at worse
new gear oil it does not harm
and if backing off a bit the primary chain... wouldn't resolve... you can ever bring back the tensioner like before

as a matter of fact... nothing to loose

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So apparently a cracked clutch hub can cause my issues. I always knew ONE of my clutch hub fingers had been chipped and damaged when I replaced my clutch in 2016. I didn't think it would matter much but I'm told my clutch doesn't sit properly the way it's supposed to because of the crack.
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Have you checked the throwout bearing?
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Have you checked the throwout bearing?
I'll have that checked out. To add, it just feels like the clutch isnt disengaging enough causing rough sloppy more labored upshifts.
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