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A snare.....is exactly what it is.
It's like a radar trap only for sound instead of speed.

My brother and I went down and tested our bikes today. We accelerated up to 50 KPH (30 MPH) which for me I had just changed to second gear as I went by the "snare".

My bike was rated at 108 decibels and my brother's at 96 decibels. They give you a ticket for anything 96 and over
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what do you guys have for exhaust? were you wide open throttle?
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A couple of years ago (when I had money to spare) I bought on of these sound meters and checked my Nightster with various slip-on muffs. Nothing that I had on would be considered "legal". I posted some of the results but that was a long time ago and I can't find them now. Best advice..be careful and don't make yourself obvious.
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Easy to beat up in court. Just bring your OEM exhaust and show the 88 DB marking. The judge will have resonnable doubt. The best advice is not to get in their trap as cited by Ni-Str.
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what do you guys have for exhaust? were you wide open throttle?
No, we weren't WFO - it's not like it was a drag race and we only went up to 50K.

I have the RB Racing LSR 2:1 and my brother's Fat Boy has a Supertrapp 2:1.
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They are trying to get sound bi-laws in a couple towns here in Ontario. Difference is that here they nail you at 92db. To give you an idea, I tested a buddies brand new Fatboy Lo with the oem exhaust and it tested at 91db. So basically anything other than stock will get you a $150 ticket, that's the low end, I think it goes up from there.
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It's like a radar trap only for sound instead of speed.

My brother and I went down and tested our bikes today. We accelerated up to 50 KPH (30 MPH) which for me I had just changed to second gear as I went by the "snare".

My bike was rated at 108 decibels and my brother's at 96 decibels. They give you a ticket for anything 96 and over
Congrats Len. I pulled off 105 with my Sideshots @ 2000rpm. You got me beat
I figured the LSR would be way over the limit. I imagine my Bobcat wouldn't pass either.
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More than half the vehicles measured Saturday in a dry run of the city’s new Noise Snare would have driven away with tickets.

Out of 205 Harleys, sportbikes, trucks and cars that voluntarily tested at the Emergency Vehicle Training Track, 108 were at or above the 96 decibel limit, which would result in a $200 fine once the snares go live July 1.

Noise enforcement begins June 1, but only warnings will be issued for the first month.

The loudest motorbike tested Saturday was an eardrum rupturing 122 decibels, while the quietest measured 78 decibels.

Of the vehicles that measured over the limit, 90 were motorbikes, 15 were cars and three were trucks.

Among the loudest bikes were Floyd and Anne Desrosier’s 800CC Suzuki C50s, which measured 108 and 101 decibels respectively.

“For (my) bike no, for (Anne’s) bike, yes I am,” said Floyd when asked if he was surprised how loud they registered.

“I expected to be in the mid-90s.”

An avid rider for more 40 years, Floyd said in his mind loud bikes are safer.

“When we’re out there, (noise) is a good warning for cars,” he said.

“Its nice to let people know I’m coming before they see me.”

But not all riders adhere to that philosophy.

Cameron Gillies measured exactly 96 decibels on his Buell XB 12SS — which would earn him a $200 ticket — and said more noise doesn’t mean more safety.

“Loud pipes have never saved anybody’s life, that’s a myth,” he said.

“And statistically, actually, there’s evidence that loud pipes actually increase your risk of injury or death.”

Most vehicles operate under 96 decibels even at full throttle, said Ald. John Mar, whose downtown ward is the epicentre for many of the noise complaints involving vehicles — mostly bikes with open pipes.

“I would say 99% of people have absolutely no idea how loud their vehicle is or what 96 decibels sounds like,” said Mar.

“A normal car is about 60 to 70 decibels and a bus is about 80 decibels.

“Ninety-six decibels is actually four times louder than a car.”

Another free testing session will be held Wednesday from 4 to 8 p.m. at 5811 23 Ave. S.E.

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Noise snare numbers:

• 205 vehicles tested

• 108 at or above 96 decibels

• Loudest motorcycle: 122dB

• Quietest motorcycle: 78dB

• Loudest car: 108dB

• Quietest car: 78dB

• Loudest truck: 103dB

• Quietest truck: 85dB

Sound equivalents:

70dB = a hairdryer

80dB = someone shouting at you from one metre away

95dB = a chainsaw running one metre away

105dB = max volume of most MP3 players

125dB = volume of a firecracker exploding

130dB = maximum volume human ear can withstand

140dB = jet engine at takeoff
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Here in Calgary, the white flag is waving.

In Edmonton, the only thing you’ll see fluttering in the hands of law enforcement officials is a ticket book — having already issued 338 fines under that city’s motorcycle noise bylaw, police in Alberta’s capital have their pens poised for another season of shush.

Calgary should be so lucky, or peaceful.

Here, one year after the vaunted Noise Snare program was declared a dud by city bylaw officials, promises of a speedy new strategy to silence noisy exhaust pipes have gone nowhere.

With summer fast approaching, Calgary’s bylaw department now admits that instead of the “sooner rather than later” solution promised in July of last year, officers will be armed with, well, nothing at all.

“The strategy is the same — but at the current time, we have no technical solution to allow us to implement that strategy,” said Kevin Leitch, operations manager for Animal & Bylaw Services.

In other words, buy some earplugs.

Calgary’s long battle with the deafening flatulence of illegal, unmuffled exhaust pipes — regularly found on motorcycles of the V-Twin variety — is over.

There’s no other choice but to quietly surrender.

Unless the attitude of law enforcement officials in this city changes (perhaps spurred by leadership at city council) Calgary has declared a de facto amnesty on obnoxious noise.

Those folk with a pathological need to be noticed have won the war — and the entire city will surely hear them celebrate, all summer long.

Of course, police still have the power to serve and protect our ears, but Calgary’s cops don’t see vehicle noise as a priority.

When Calgary’s finest do issue a ticket for modified mufflers, it’s almost always in conjunction with another ticket, like speeding.

Unlike Edmonton, where police purposefully pull noisy vehicles over to test them with decibel meters, cops in Calgary have left proactive enforcement to the bylaw department — which would be swell, except the bylaw officers can’t pull vehicles over.

It’s a little like having lifeguards who can’t swim, but that’s how Calgary operates.

Bylaw has to catch offenders without stopping them. Hence the Noise Snare experiment, which saw photo-radar type technology applied to sound, in hopes of catching passing vehicles as they break the 96-decibel noise limit.

It didn’t work, at least the way the bylaw department expected it would, and so it’s back to square one.

For now, that means asking nicely, provided the complainant gets a licence plate first.

“We can follow up with the licence owner and warn them and advise them of the concern — you open yourself up to the liability of the police pulling in behind you and possibly having your vehicle towed and multiple fines,” said Leitch.

IF police pull you over.

Short of catching a noisy motorcyclist disturbing the peace in his own driveway, Leitch admits there’s nothing bylaw officers can do, because they can’t stop vehicles under the Traffic Act.

“We have the authority to write a ticket, but at the current time we have no tools to get us to the finish line with that ticket,” he said.

Meanwhile, Edmonton police recently issued an update on their groundbreaking noise bylaw, adopted in 2010.

Police take noise seriously in Edmonton, and in three years, 338 motorcyclists were charged for excessive decibels, along with 714 other vehicles.

At $250 a ticket, it’s a penalty Edmonton riders and drivers have no choice but to take seriously — and the rest of the city gets to enjoy the resulting silence.

So why not Calgary?

It’s the same province with the same court system, and Edmonton has already spent three years fine tuning their enforcement, so cases are now rarely thrown out of court.

We could be enjoying the same silence here, in no time at all, if only there was will to match the way.

All Calgary needs is an arsenal of decibel meters and a police service willing to enforce the law, and we’d have peace in our time.

Instead, we suffer — and not in silence.
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Wait,I thought in order to test your decibel level,they had to be so many feet away from the exhaust tip,and at a certain angle,and rpm. That's the way we have to do it when we test for Enduros,and Hare Scramble Races I work.
I'd think ambient noise as well as you passing by combined would create a false reading. Attributing the clutter to your number.
While wide open pipes on the street might be a little too much,a decent system with performance baffles really isn't so bad. Anything to bring in the Revenue I guess.
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