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Old 10th June 2019
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It kind of sounds like you're confusing what was a commentary about a bike, with a motorcycle review, which I in no way implied that this was...

But it seems like you want some hard numbers, I'll try to be a good sport and offer up what you want.

Let's make a comparison of, say, a 2015 Street 750 compared to my eleven year old Aprilia Shiver 750.



Firstly, an introduction to my Shiver, I bought it for just under $3000. It's Italian, made in Italy. It uses a trellis frame to keep weight light. It has adjustable suspension, beefy inverted front forks, a decent rear shock. 90-degree liquid cooled L-Twin engine. Lots of brakes. Comfy very upright and neutral ergonomics. It makes a great machine for downtown hooligan riding where my V-Rod can feel a little too big and heavy.

The Shiver's claim to fame was being the first production motorcycle to feature ride-by-wire technology (for different ride modes, like Sport Mode, Rain Mode, Touring Mode).

Next, let's compare the numbers that you asked me about. I'll put the Street 750 numbers first, and Shiver 750 equivalent in bold, second.

0-60 MPH 4.6 sec. vs. 4.15 sec
0-1/4-MILE 13.69 sec. at 93.8 mph vs. 11.88 @ 111.8
BRAKING, 60 MPH-0 152 ft. vs. 113.8 ft.
HORSEPOWER 57.6 hp at 7955 rpm vs. 77.3 rear wheel hp
TORQUE 43.2 lb.-ft. at 3790 rpm vs. 44.83 rear wheel torque

By my math my eleven year old 750 is:
10% faster 0-60
13% faster in the 1/4 mile
25% better in braking distance (talk about a life-saving vs. life ending difference)
34% more horsepower
4% more torque

Source 1: Cycleworld https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/03/2...cations#page-3

Source 2: Cycleworld https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rid...rmance-numbers

Torque aside... it's a slaughter. I can give you a bunch more numbers to show you what a complete POS the Street is compared to a 750cc bike 7 years it's senior, but then you might mistake me for someone who has an axe to grind with the Street.

Really, I'm just a guy who wrongly assumed everyone else already knew what a terribly mediocre vehicle it really is.

That's a pretty stupid comparison. Different horses for different courses.

And yes you do have an axe to grind, that's obvious.

It's also irrelevant.


Hell if you didn't have an axe to grind you would have AT LEAST used the Street Rod 750 and dropped the pretentious used bike babble.

Ride what you like, and worry less about what others like.

Btw - the Street Rod 750 was a fun ride, arguably comparable in performance to our 696.
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