The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Seating and Luggage
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Sportster Motorcycle Seating and Luggage Here is where you post discussions about seating and luggage

Active Threads
0 Pushrod cover seals
Last Post: davixlrtt
Posted On: 10 Minutes Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 3
0 Hardtail frame conversion with 3" stretch and avoiding a chain conversion kit
Last Post: rokytnji
Posted On: 29 Minutes Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 178
0 28 years later..
Last Post: USAFpj
Posted On: 33 Minutes Ago
Replies: 29
Views: 1,042
0 2010 xl 1200 low solo seat fit
Last Post: jharback
Posted On: 41 Minutes Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 124
14 HD ad for Dirt?
Last Post: gusm2
Posted On: 59 Minutes Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 141
0 Bearing questions
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 429
0 Turn signals and switch required 1972 xlch
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 133
0 Best way to 883->1200cc ?
Last Post: hexnut
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 398
0 ....1
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 4,918
Views: 288,978
0 Hi From NJ
Last Post: jharback
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 200
0 What's your opinion on windshields?
Last Post: jharback
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,181
Views: 198,224
10 Show your bike next to a Cow
Last Post: mick42
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 18
Views: 620
0 Hello from oklahoma
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 16
Views: 271
0 Triumph or Harley!
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 437
0 New Member
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 441
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 44,376
Views: 6,968,249
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 12,288
Views: 1,120,398
0 What engine oil do you use?
Last Post: Tomcatt
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 466
Views: 92,419
0 Cold Start. Then stall
Last Post: Tucsonmax1
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 308
0 Greetings from Queens
Last Post: shanneba
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 174
0 From Illinois with my first sporty
Last Post: Highly-Dangerous
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 22
Views: 1,037
0 What did you do for your sporty Today?
Last Post: Highly-Dangerous
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 6,137
Views: 780,210
0 Front end swap
Last Post: stalkie
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 564
0 once a cheater always a cheater?
Last Post: Glamazon
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 38
Views: 4,078
0 Removing oil pump
Last Post: Highly-Dangerous
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 32
Views: 766
0 In tank pump and filter work
Last Post: harley506d
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 128
0 Show your favorite pic of your bike. just one
Last Post: Cheater5
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,723
Views: 1,801,680
0 Converted 883, head questions
Last Post: depthsounder
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 177
0 Nut and Washer Size by Part Number?
Last Post: motogpfan82
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 65
0 Open relationships, swinging, threesomes, et al...
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 140
Views: 27,855
More...
Members Birthdays
oakies, Gunhappy2 (61), SamIam (55), biggdann (49), boyer911 (49), danii (42), PVD24 (40)
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1 Week Ago
lewk lewk is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 57
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 10
lewk is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Viking bags For Harley Sportster 1200 (Product #8238)

Bought these in Jan 2018. Product description says Viking leather. This morning I noticed that the straps were all cracked already.

Contacted Viking Bags customer service who said: Viking leather is synthetic.

That stinks of misleading advertising imho.

BTW he also said ALL Viking products are made with Viking leather.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 1 Week Ago
Folkie's Avatar
Folkie Folkie is offline
Brass Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Western Weald
Posts: 45,568
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200CB
Sportster/Buell Year: 2015
Other Motorcycle Model: CRF250L
Other Motorcycle Year: 2017
Reputation: 12916014
Folkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond reputeFolkie has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think 'misleading' is putting it mildly.
__________________
Folkie
Super Moderator
South East England Riders



There is nothing at the end of any road better than may be found beside it. Edward Thomas (1878 - 1917)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 Week Ago
lewk lewk is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 57
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 10
lewk is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Folkie View Post
I think 'misleading' is putting it mildly.
They don't mention on their website that they use the term "Viking leather" to mean synthetic leather.

So I went ahead and asked a question on the Q&A tab of their product description. I asked whether Viking leather was genuine leather. As of a minute ago, my question has still not been posted on their website. I've also uploaded pics of the cracks. Let's see if they do anything other than lay low and hope I go away.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1 Week Ago
XL Ed's Avatar
XL Ed XL Ed is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,802
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
Reputation: 1556875
XL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond reputeXL Ed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The least they could do is call them like leather. Or is that leather lyke?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1 Week Ago
lewk lewk is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 57
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 10
lewk is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XL Ed View Post
The least they could do is call them like leather. Or is that leather lyke?
Their dishonest behavior appears intentional. I saw on Amazon that, earlier this year a customer asked them point blank:

Is "Viking leather" "genuine leather" or just a name for Viking imitation leather?

Their answer was: Viking leather

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1 Week Ago
Hippysmack's Avatar
Hippysmack Hippysmack is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,497
Sportster/Buell Model: Xl1250S
Sportster/Buell Year: 98
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 500
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 3827144
Hippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I usually condition mine and I haven't had a problem with them.
The right lid cracked at the seam but I also opened it up in below 20F weather.

Still using them though. They still function well... even cracked.
__________________
Reference the XLFORUM'S Sportsterpedia for additional technical information & advice

In Search of Fuel, Sunshine and a Steady Idle.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1 Week Ago
NLXL's Avatar
NLXL NLXL is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 155
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883DLX
Sportster/Buell Year: 1992
Reputation: 232212
NLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant future
Default

Take a closer look at the stitches, that it's not how real leather would look like if it was stitched.
"This leather saddlebag is made from high quality Viking leather and is key lockable."

https://www.vikingbags.com/viking-da...cycle-tool-bag

Calling it 'Viking leather' is nonsense, it's just artificial leather and it's a steep price tag for it.
Nothing wrong with artificial leather, it can be quite good and sturdy. But just don't sell it as 'leather', it's synthetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_leather
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 1 Week Ago
Hippysmack's Avatar
Hippysmack Hippysmack is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,497
Sportster/Buell Model: Xl1250S
Sportster/Buell Year: 98
Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki Vulcan 500
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 3827144
Hippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond reputeHippysmack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I guess I've gotten numb to all the artificial sweeteners.
Every company I could name does the same thing.
That's how they survive.
But I agree they should be more honest than that.
All in all, they are good bags, for me anyway.
To get the size and function these have, I'd have to pay out the arse for others.
So, if I have to redesign them later, I'll just have to do what I have to do.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1 Week Ago
Toejam503's Avatar
Toejam503 Toejam503 is online now
Air-Cooled Forever
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dakota Territory
Posts: 2,331
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Sportster/Buell Model #2: (Prev.Own)XLH Milw.Spec.
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1981
Reputation: 4351459
Toejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Viking leather comes from Viking Cattle. If anyone remembers the Korean made Motorcycle jackets of the '60's, '70's and '80s', Korean cows were very thin skinned!
This what I found on their home page: "All Viking Bags' products are made from premium quality leather." Now if it's anything like the leather in the newer cars, it's sewn different than clothing and the way bags used to be made, now and they use vinyl in some panels.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #10  
Old 1 Week Ago
NLXL's Avatar
NLXL NLXL is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 155
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883DLX
Sportster/Buell Year: 1992
Reputation: 232212
NLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant futureNLXL has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippysmack View Post
I guess I've gotten numb to all the artificial sweeteners.
Every company I could name does the same thing.
That's how they survive.
But I agree they should be more honest than that.
All in all, they are good bags, for me anyway.
To get the size and function these have, I'd have to pay out the arse for others.
So, if I have to redesign them later, I'll just have to do what I have to do.
Oh yeah, absolutely. If they look great and doing their job, what more can you want? Most of the times real leather costs three or four times as much. Artificial leather is often more water resistant, because the won't let water through. Wet 'real' leather will mold and sag if not dried properly.

Dunno how it's in the US, but here you cannot sell it as 'leather'. It has to have a leather marking stamped in it that it's real. Or it can be accompanied by a small piece of leather that is connected to it with a marking that says 'Genuine Leather'.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:41.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC