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When I rebuilt my swing arm spindle/bearings with new parts, I first applied a curing graphite anti-seize coat on the new spindle parts then copiously greased them in waterproof grease before assembly. I sure hope it comes apart easier next time!
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I have Drag Specialties rubber mounts on front and rear of my Roadster. The vibration makes my hands numb. Also, the vibration makes everything on the bike rattle and it sounds like a multitude of issues. I spent quite a while chasing rattles and thinking I had a rod knock starting, but that was 40,000 miles or so ago and the bike would have blown up by now if it was really a knock. It's more likely the baffles in my Python pipes that rattle like crazy that sounds like knocking. I have a set of stock front mounts here and I am thinking I will replace the front with stock to see if that reduces the vibrations to my hands. That way the rear will still be more rigid, and that could be a good solution. I don't know when I will have time to try it, that new mount has been on the shelf for a year or two now.
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Wedge: that is good information to know. I do not need any more vibration through my hands (arthritis). I have heard of the combination of Drag Specialties rears and OEM fronts, and am contemplating trying that. In addition I will also try rubber mounting my bars, possibly with an older model top yolk (if I can get one to fit).

Four Speed: Agree with the anti seize compound on reassembly. All my axles etc get slathered in the stuff when I put them together. If only the last guy had done that with my swingarm setup I wouldn't have had this trouble . . .
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Wedge: that is good information to know. I do not need any more vibration through my hands (arthritis). I have heard of the combination of Drag Specialties rears and OEM fronts, and am contemplating trying that. In addition I will also try rubber mounting my bars, possibly with an older model top yolk (if I can get one to fit).

Four Speed: Agree with the anti seize compound on reassembly. All my axles etc get slathered in the stuff when I put them together. If only the last guy had done that with my swingarm setup I wouldn't have had this trouble . . .
So, you know of someone who has done that? I would like to get his (or her) opinion of how it worked out.
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To be clear, I prefer not to mix anti-seize with bearing grease. I used a curing graphite spray on the swing arm components first that does
not migrate before I applied water proof bearing grease - same grease as went in the bearings. If there are no bearings then use anti-seize.
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To be clear, I prefer not to mix anti-seize with bearing grease. I used a curing graphite spray on the swing arm components first that does not migrate before I applied water proof bearing grease - same grease as went in the bearings. If there are no bearings then use anti-seize.
I can remember the days when axle grease was used for everything and anti-seize was either not invented yet or just not used in garages. Also, I never use anti-seize on spark plugs, it will short a plug out if it migrates to the strap area. Back in the 60's as a VW mechanic, we were advised by the factory to use 30 wt. oil on the plug threads (because the #3 plug used to always seize otherwise since it was the last to get the air flow and ran a bit too hot). I still use 30 wt. on plug threads to this day with never an issue. Oh, and axle grease was used for VW brake adjusters and on the backing plate tabs where the shoes made contact in New England where the corrosion was terrible. No issues there either.
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I have Drag Specialties rubber mounts on front and rear of my Roadster. The vibration makes my hands numb. Also, the vibration makes everything on the bike rattle and it sounds like a multitude of issues. I spent quite a while chasing rattles and thinking I had a rod knock starting, but that was 40,000 miles or so ago and the bike would have blown up by now if it was really a knock. It's more likely the baffles in my Python pipes that rattle like crazy that sounds like knocking. I have a set of stock front mounts here and I am thinking I will replace the front with stock to see if that reduces the vibrations to my hands. That way the rear will still be more rigid, and that could be a good solution. I don't know when I will have time to try it, that new mount has been on the shelf for a year or two now.
Wedge: Does the part number on those stock front mounts you have on the shelf end with an 'A'?

From my understanding/research, HD have reformulated the compound for their OEM mounts to a similar spec to the Drag Specialties mounts. This is why the part numbers have the suffix A. My primary source of reference is several XR1200 forums, one in the UK and one in the US where several members have used the combination of DS rear mounts and OEM fronts to have good handling (no rear end wobbles) and reduced vibration. In fact, one guy (on the UK site I think) used that combination but filled the void in the DS mounts with a self curing rubber compound (Liquid Urethane 94A). Apparently he got great results. Of note, these are older threads so would have the front mount part numbers before the suffix A.

Unfortunately for me, if I were to go buy some OEM front mounts now I think I would only get the 'A' superseded ones unless I could find some new old stock, but being in Australia I don't think that would be the case, hence my desire to rubbermount my bars in some fashion (dreaded arthritis creeping into hands).

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Afterthought: according to Ronnies, the 48463-04A and 48492-04A superseded numbers for the front and rear mounts have been backdated to the '04 models.

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Yes, mine is 48463-04A.

I hope it's not as stiff as a Drag Specialties mount. But my thoughts on this are...

What if having more flex in the front makes the rear twist/pivot as the front vibrates up and down, instead of them both vibrating together. Could that cause the rear mount to split around it's core?

That is the thought that has been behind my procrastination, and that is now my official excuse.
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Pretty sure the one XR setup I saw ran poly in the rear and rubber out front. No clue on longevity there, but that’s quite a bit more extreme than mixing two different types of rubber. I highly doubt two different rubber options are going to be so different that you wreck one because of the other.
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