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Hey guys! My names Nick and i'm new here to the xlforum. Im no bike mechanic by any means but I can do routine maintenance such as fluid changes. I recently purchased my first Harley, a 2005 Sportster 1200c. The bike has around 8000 miles on it. From my understanding, the bike was not rode much. The carburetor has been rejetted and it has vance and hines straight shots on it (full system). Air cleaner is stock. The bike is in nice condition however I noticed something recently. When I purchased the bike about a month ago I went ahead and changed all fluids (since I didn't know when last time fluids were changed). I filled the oil level between the two marks on the dip stick as indicated by the owners manual. Ive put around 700 miles on the bike since then. I rechecked the oil last week while motor was cold and noticed my oil level has dropped. It hasn't dropped by much but it has dropped. Its still between the lines, just a lot closer to the bottom line. I checked the oil when warm (after riding around town) and the oil is about at the level where it was when I initially changed my oil. Any ideas? Should I be concerned? Also, today I checked my plugs (pulled them out and inspected them) and noticed both plugs have a light coating of what seems to be motor oil on the threads. The center electrode of the plug is a dark black color and the ground electrode has a light tan color to it. Neither plug has oil at top of plug. When I start the bike with a cold engine it seems to have a very slight white haze coming from the tail pipes. I wouldn't quite call it smoke but it is visible if you sat and watch the tailpipes. After the motor is warm I do not notice anything. The bike seems to be running fine, since it does have a carburetor I do get a "hiccup" every now and again while easing off the throttle.

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When your bike sits a spell the oil in the tank will actually drain in to the engine very slowly.
Never check or add oil after the bike has been sitting !
Warm it up and then check the oil as that will return the oil to the tank.
If your manual calls for 3.8 qts on a change its WRONG !
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You should always check oil level with bike at normal operating temp. Never add oil when cold..
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Thanks a lot guys. After putting a little oil in the new filter I was only able to put about 3 qts. of oil in the tank. The manual can be kina confusing. What about the exhaust and plug issue? Any thoughts?
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I think the early rubber mounts had some valve seal issues which could explain the white smoke when cold.
Oil on the plug threads ? Some guys use anti sieze and others will use motor oil to keep the threads from sticking.
Spark plug colors are very subjective,check the jetting and report back,I would also replace the plugs with some NGK DCPR8E gapped to .040 and run them for a bit before I got too concerned.
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Thanks guys. I checked the plugs and they were "champion" brand plugs. The guy at HD recommended the SE plugs. I bought the SE plugs and put them in today. Feels like a smoother ride but it may just be my imagination. As for the oil, I guess that does make sense. I've read a lot about the valve seals and guides going bad on these bikes. Just seems like low miles for the to be happening. I guess when you don't ride a bike very often things start to happen internally.
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The bike actualy have 3.8 quarts in it but, peoples are lazy and dont do a scavenge oil change. When changing oil, unplug return line and drain the system for about a quart, I fill the oil's tank with two liters before reving the engine to drain that quart of old oil sitting in the system. After replug the return line and enjoy a real new oil change. Who will let the mechanic change their car's oil and use three new quarts and use an old quart of oil ? Not me. Take two minutes more to do a real oil change.
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Where would I find the return line? New to this sporty thing.
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a 2005 Sportster 1200c. The bike has around 8000 miles on it. From my understanding, the bike was not rode much.
8,000 miles in 11 years? 730 miles a year? No, it wasn't rode much.
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