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I went to Sturgis SD for the Black Hills Motorcycle Rally last Thurs. and came back on Sunday. (Aug. 9th-12th) Had a great time. It was LOUD and HOT.
On Friday, my son and I took Vanocker Canyon to Nemo Road and on up to Deadwood,SD. We did the foot tour and shopped and gambled. It was about 94 degrees out, so we drank lots of water. When we got back to the bikes, my Sporty clicked once and No lights, nothing. Took off the battery side cover and cleaned the POS. cable and it clicked once and nothing, I did this 2 more times and then pulled the battery out far enough to do the NEG. cable. this time I got one starter round and then nothing, no lights,etc. My son asked if we could jump it and I said yes but I think it would do the same thing the next time I tried to start it. To make sure it was the battery, I took a wrench and touched both battery terminals together and got NO arc. (It was a 120 degrees in that parking lot) The battery was 6 years old and the heat killed it. I spent the next 45 min. to an hour hoofing it to find someone who sold batteries for a motorcycle (it would have taken longer on my son's bike because the traffic was absolutely unreal). Deadwood Custom Cycles actually had batteries but seemed to think I would need to put the new battery on a charger. I told them my experience was you but the acid in (about 15-20 min.) and then let the battery set for 30 min. The battery should have 11.5-12.5 volts and the bike should fire right up. They said "OK?". Well I followed my experience and my Sporty fired right up. My son yelled "ALL RIGHT" and threw his arms up like I scored a football goal or something. I usually don't bring tools with me but I did this time, maybe I jinxed myself or maybe, just maybe I listened to my intuition. Adventures In Motorcycling!
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Are you really using an acid battery?
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I've never used any other kind. Is there another kind? Not using a sealed battery however, that's another matter.
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Yeah, they're all lead acid. The wet cell (flooded) comes maintenance free or serviceable.

The AGM (absorbed glass mat) is maintenance free, provides good electrical reliability and is lighter than the flooded lead-acid type. It stands up well to low temperatures and has a low self-discharge. The leading advantages are a charge that is up to five times faster than the flooded version, and the ability to deep cycle.
Sealed AGM batteries typically last 3 to 5 years on average. 6 to 8 years is easily obtainable with proper maintenance. Typically sealed AGM batteries will give warning before completely dying. They will start slower, and require more charging.
It was developed in the 80s for use in military aircraft.
AGM batteries should be charged using a charger with a mode switch for AGM type batteries. It is recommended to use a charger, current limited to 20% or 0.2C of the batteries capacity at a charging voltage of between 14.6 – 14.8V following deep cycle use, or 13.6V – 13.8V for standby use.

There's also gel which is another variant of a lead acid.
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Are you really using an acid battery?
Why yes I do. Anything else isn't that easy to obtain or are very expensive. Optima makes Drycell batteries for cars but motorcycle batteries, other than wetcell, are not available yet.
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AGM isn't a wet cell and that's what I have. OEM batteries are AGM. They're under $100.
That optima is an AGM as well. Just an advanced version.
All OPTIMA batteries are AGM batteries. AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat), is a material that holds acid in place like a sponge. Specifically, they're made with Spiralcell® Technology - an advanced form of AGM technology that is unique to OPTIMA.
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Toejam, firstly well done on getting back on the road. I think what folks are saying is that AGM batteries
(a type of lead acid battery where the acid is held in absorbent glass mat) are better suited to motorcycles
and are pretty much a standard fit nowadays. They offer better cold cranking performance, better charging
efficiency, less self-discharge and much better resistance to vibration than a flooded battery; so they last longer.
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The AC DELCO battery that I just replaced was an AGM, Now I have an Interstate AGM battery. I've always referred to any battery that you add acid to as a wetcell. I hope that it didn't cause any confusion. I haven't seen a non-AGM motorcycle battery in a long , long time. I'm sure someone still makes them
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Yes, AGM are your best bet.

I think the confusion was
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I told them my experience was you but the acid in (about 15-20 min.) and then let the battery set for 30 min
Back the day you did add acid to flooded batteries. Thankfully batteries are sealed nowadays.

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Yeah I thought you were running a flooded, wet cell and thought they all were that way. My bad.
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