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Have you ever seen two potheads fighting? Two drunks? One is legal, the other not. You be the judge.
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I do not get along with folks who are too weak to deal with the hardships of reality and must alter the consciousness with drugs. ie I am not being "obnoxious or threating" in my line of work drug use even in off hours is not tolerated.
I don't get along with folks who think they have any right to legislate how I recreate, as long as it doesn't harm you. I don't smoke pot, but you have no right to tell me that I can't.
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It's funny how the raw plant is classified as schedule 1 (drug with no known medicinal value).

Yet:

Marinol (synthetic, by prescription) patent protected is schedule 3
Nabilone/Cesamet (synthetic, by prescription) patent protected is schedule 2

Nabilone, although an analogue to Marinol receives a stricter scheduling and in turn more difficult for patients to receive - this couldn't be to protect the Marinol market that received approval first and competes directly with?

And ... US Patent 6,630,507 Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants

IF the cannabis plant is schedule 1 w/ no known medicinal value, how did the US gov't get a patent??

I would say it is all about the Benjamins, but Franklin started the first hemp paper mill.

Perhaps Jefferson is more appropriate, he is quoted with:

“Some of my finest hours have been spent sitting on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see.”

Perhaps, in light of this, the demise of the $2 bill bearing his likeness occured.

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Ok. The United States is still a free country and I enjoy the option to discriminate against whoever I choose when it comes to personal matters and situations, drug users and alcoholics are at the top of that list.
Says the United States is a free country. . .

Thinks that means he is free to tell other people what they can and can't do. . .
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I do not get along with folks who are too weak to deal with the hardships of reality and must alter the consciousness with drugs. ie I am not being "obnoxious or threating" in my line of work drug use even in off hours is not tolerated.
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Hemp, Hemp, Hooray!(1993)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=X9WTUdMrn-k

For those who choose to not click on the link....

Hemp Hemp Hooray! Relegalize Today!
You can now grow up to 6 marijuana plants per person for medicine, including Stress, and P.M.S., Migraine, Back Pain, you name your ailment. in San Fransisco, Marin and soon to be Santa Cruz counties. By 80% of the popular vote. And a unanimous decision on 2 Supervisorial boards to get wise and relegalize. Santa Cruz approved it by 78% of the popular vote. It's now pending in the California state senate. Medical Marijuana Bill S.J.R.8. It'll allow you to grow 6 plants for each one of your friends that can't grow because they're either too ill, don't have the space or the time. All you gotta do is call your California State senator. It's there waitin for you to do it.
All the founding fathers grew cannabis...
on their plantations, by law since Jamestown 1619. If you didn't grow canabis in the colonies you were fined and thrown in jail. Every farmer had to produce at least a quarter-acre of cannabis for the government. You could pay your taxes with it right up to the 1820s. The very term "legal tender" meant you were bartering & trading in canabis.
Why aren't we growing it today?
Why is it illegal for you to grow your homespun clothes from hemp? George Washington grew it on his plantation. So did Thomas Jefferson. They both smoked it. George Washington wrote, "Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere." Thomas Jefferson wrote in his diaries, he smoked cannabis to relieve his migraine. It was the second most prescribed medicine until the turn of the century. The most perscribed medicine was Hashish. That's what they gave women for child birth. It is the most natural form of pain relief on the planet. George Washington also wrote, "I missed pulling my male plants by two days (because of the war) now I must wait another season for my Blossoming Hemp." All the pioneer settlers grew their herbal bush, they called it herbal medicine.
Why is that herbal medicine illegal? It's illegal because...
Dupont earns up to 80% of their profits from the sulfuric acid process that turns wood into paper. Go back to hemp paper .You then stop deforestation. You stop pouring toxins. And you put Dupont quietly out of business.
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel with hempseed oil; all paints and varnishes used hemp oil as the base. Let's grow the hempseed oil...let's make everything out of Hemp... Hemp, Hemp, Hooray!
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The question isn't "Do you like potheads" or "Do you think people should get high." It's "Do you think cannibus should be illegal?"

The idea that anyone thought they had the legal authority to declare a plant illegal in our "free country" in the first place is laughable. What's even more laughable is that someone would site our "free country" to not only justify not liking potheads, which is his prerogative, but suggest that he can support a law to control their use of a plant for any use other than to cause harm to others.
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Have you ever seen two potheads fighting? Two drunks? One is legal, the other not. You be the judge.
This is an excellent point. I like beer, the taste of good beer, but after about three or for it all tastes like shit, and the effects get worse. I have seen more folks killed from the use of alcohol than weed. In fact I don't know any pot heads that killed anyone cause they were high on weed. In fact when a bunch of us are riding together all the pot heads sorta hang back and stay away from the drinking riders. Seen more of them wreck than I can remember.
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The question isn't "Do you like potheads" or "Do you think people should get high." It's "Do you think cannibus should be illegal?"

The idea that anyone thought they had the legal authority to declare a plant illegal in our "free country" in the first place is laughable. What's even more laughable is that someone would site our "free country" to justify not liking potheads, which is his prerogative, but suggest that he can support a law to control their use of a plant for any use other than to cause harm to others.
Not liking someone because of what they do is a psychological disorder related to wanting to be in total control alas also why they don't get high because they won't feel in control. If ya never smoked or got high from smoking ya can't judge shit.
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