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Battery is fully charged and load tested good at the parts store.

Going down the FSM here's what I have determined:

1. No voltage increase at battery terminals when running, somethings not charging.

2. AC output probed at stator connector is about 57V at about 2000 RPM

3. About .3 Ohms between each stator connector pins when probed.

4. I'm getting about .1 to .3 Ohms between BOTH stator pins and chassis ground. (One lead of the meter is on one stator connector pin and the other grounded)

The FSM tells me that the stator is shorted to ground as a result of #4 above. Can anyone confirm this??? Wonder how this happened?
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4. I'm getting about .1 to .3 Ohms between BOTH stator pins and chassis ground. (One lead of the meter is on one stator connector pin and the other grounded)

The FSM tells me that the stator is shorted to ground as a result of #4 above. Can anyone confirm this??? Wonder how this happened?
Yep - Measuring from either stator pin to ground should be INFINITY - OPEN - NO CONNECTION

You might just have a short in the cable going into the stator - but most often, readings like this indicate a short in one or more of the coils of the stator - and not feasible to fix...

Is this the stock original stator?

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Thanks for the fast reply and confirming that!

The stator is stock and original AFAIK. 2003 ~30,000 miles. Any recommendations on a replacement unit?
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Here's some pics of the stator job. I ended up wrapping some bailing wire around the new stator lead to pull it through the opening in the engine by the cam chest and down to the frame. Had to fiddle with it for about 15 minutes maybe and change my approach but it wasn't too terrible.


Wires are exposed here in this one, insulation is slipping off.


The winding at roughly the 9 o'clock position looks pretty crusty. I don't think the whole thing should be black either?


New stator next to OE one.


New one looks like a great piece. THANKYOU rocketman for the reccomendation. Looks solid!

You guys got any other reccomendations or things to look out for while I'm in here??


DAMN I'm tempted to order up one of those LedSled kicker kits while I'm in here. I've been DROOLING over that since I first discovered it. Also, all the people that bitch about hard starting with a kicker, and, the vids all over the net of people just kicking, and kicking and kicking are hilarious..... I know the flathead UL I have that some of you may know about always starts easy. There IS a ritual to it...

With that particular flatty it was:

2 or 3 twists of the throttle then kick it through with the ignition OFF. Repeat 2 or 3 times..

THEN.....

Turn the ignition on and prime one more time with a few throttle twists and if it was cold enough, turn the choke on and 90% of the time it would fire right up.....
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Just a suggestion, when working on new electrical parts (or any parts for that matter) interior to the engine and new parts, they should be placed on a clean surface to keep contamination off the new parts.

Glad you found the issue and got it corrected. Enjoy the ride!
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Just a suggestion, when working on new electrical parts (or any parts for that matter) interior to the engine and new parts, they should be placed on a clean surface to keep contamination off the new parts.

Glad you found the issue and got it corrected. Enjoy the ride!
You're right. Definitely helps to keep everything clean. I know there is a fair amount of trash on the floor as seen in the pics... I typically use a combination of rags, compressed air or whatever else to clean something first, and then install it.

Really, my (relatively) clean bench is covered with other parts/projects etc, so I just laid the stators down on the ground in order to get some pics with nothing else in the background. Well aside from whatever is floating around on the ground haha!
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Kudos to IXL2Relax!

WTHEWILDONE, what trans lube are you running? That original stator looks etched black; GL5 gear oils tend to be
more corrosive to copper. It might explain the failure. My stator is older and was still copper coloured under the oil.
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Yes, thankyou IXL2Relax!!!

I have only run GL-1 in it...... The weekend warrior that I liberated the bike from may have run something in there that was not the correct choice.
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