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28th November 2021
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Flat Track Champion
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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I have run an inline filter for years with no problem, there should be nothing floating in tank
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28th November 2021
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 8,112 Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton Sportster/Buell Year: 1962 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966 Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one) Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
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Originally Posted by rocketnorton
what is the "molasses trick"?
never heard of that one
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One of the best ways I know to clean rust and muck out of a gas tank.
1/3 molasses 2/3rds hot water (helps dilute the molasses).
I use a whole jar of molasses. Mix it up, pir it in. Turn the tank over and slosh the mixture around.
Now this does take time. Here we're talking days, not hours or minutes.
Every time you go near the tank turn it over and slosh it around. The more often the better I guess but it's not critical as far as I can tell.
Might take a eek. In any case, when your done your back to bare, shiny steel. The molasses eats rust. Seriously. Any rust.
Google rust and molasses and you'll see the results.
I've never found anything that's better.
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28th November 2021
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: May 2019
Location: surrey, bc
Posts: 242 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1972 Other Motorcycle Model: homebilt fxr Other Motorcycle Year: 80+
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^^^ sounds good
ive used vinegar, but it will flash rust when dumped, gotta get a fuel/oil mix in it right after dump
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28th November 2021
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Biker
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Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 27 Sportster/Buell Model: Ironhead XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
OK. What did the shop do to the bike in 8 months ?
You need to learn to do things systematically. Just guessing and doing things randomly is not a great idea. You may "play" with things you don't need to and possibly cause further problems.
I always begin with a compression test. Compression gauges are cheap and not hard to use.
They will tell you a lot about your engine.
Your obviously familiar with taking the carb off so substitution will save a lot of time and effort when it comes to carb problems. $49 on ePray will get you a new fake S&S Super E jetted for your engine. A cheap tool.
Before you put a new carb on though you do need to make sure your tank, tap and lines are clean. If the tank is rusty inside take the time to do the molasses trick.
After this if the problem is still there it's going to be ignition.
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I took it in because the battery wasn’t charging and I was unable to shift past 1st, the only reason it took so long was because the shop I took it to was only open 1 day a week cause of covid, it was a real headache. I got the bike last October so just been trying to get everything going, little things here and there. I do need to clean out the tank, there are chunks of what looks like rust floating in there. There’s much I need to learn, appreciate the advice
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28th November 2021
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Biker
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Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 27 Sportster/Buell Model: Ironhead XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doodah man
But still, if this is happening in gear your clutch could be dragging a bit. It’s life with a “wet” clutch. There’s a fine line between adjusted just right and dragging. If it doesn’t act like it wants to die in neutral but does in gear, revisit your clutch adjustment. What weight oil is in your primary?
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Right now I’m using HD SAE 50, but I’m thinking of doing an oil change soon. Would you suggest something different. I’m using it for both engine and transmission.
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28th November 2021
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 8,112 Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton Sportster/Buell Year: 1962 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966 Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one) Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
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If you have anything at all floating in there it's a good chance the carb is now full of it.
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28th November 2021
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Biker
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Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 27 Sportster/Buell Model: Ironhead XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
If you have anything at all floating in there it's a good chance the carb is now full of it.
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Gonna have to clean out the tank, check pushrods and points. A lot of work ahead of me before I can ride again lol
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28th November 2021
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Biker
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Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 27 Sportster/Buell Model: Ironhead XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
OK. What did the shop do to the bike in 8 months ?
You need to learn to do things systematically. Just guessing and doing things randomly is not a great idea. You may "play" with things you don't need to and possibly cause further problems.
I always begin with a compression test. Compression gauges are cheap and not hard to use.
They will tell you a lot about your engine.
Your obviously familiar with taking the carb off so substitution will save a lot of time and effort when it comes to carb problems. $49 on ePray will get you a new fake S&S Super E jetted for your engine. A cheap tool.
Before you put a new carb on though you do need to make sure your tank, tap and lines are clean. If the tank is rusty inside take the time to do the molasses trick.
After this if the problem is still there it's going to be ignition.
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Thanks for the advice, I definitely have a lot to learn. How long would you suggest to do the molasses trick? Also any suggestions and what to do with the full tank of gas that’s in there?
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28th November 2021
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Rider Of The Iron Steed
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N6C 1N3
Posts: 32,806 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Congojack
... How long would you suggest to do the molasses trick?...
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https://www.christinedemerchant.com/...t-removal.html
I would take the used gasoline to a recycle depot.
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28th November 2021
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: 37° 25' 28" N by -80° 03' 42" W
Posts: 11,292 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Congojack
Right now I’m using HD SAE 50, but I’m thinking of doing an oil change soon. Would you suggest something different. I’m using it for both engine and transmission.
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You might benefit from a 20w50 in colder weather - so that really depends on the outside temps where you live. I use Castrol gtx 20/50 simply because it’s easy to get.
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