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I checked MSRP and market prices. Yours are different.
TT-1 is about $550+ TT-1x $250+
O2 sensors are available at local auto parts store or off the web.

Have you asked/checked to see if the o2 PC-5 sensors were still under warranty?

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I checked MSRP and market prices. Yours are different.
TT-1 is about $550+ TT-1x $250+
Fuel Moto have the TT for $399 at the moment. Their shipping to me is $40.
Still waiting on a price from Serco (the Australian importer).

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Good luck with that in regional Queensland
The State I live in is big and I live in the sparsely populated end. To give you an idea, Queensland is two and a half times the land size of Texas and has less than 5 million residents versus Texas's 27.5 mill....
In fact the whole of Australia has less residents than Texas

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....or off the web.
You may have more luck with that.
Our two big autoparts stores don't stock it online. They can get them for me through their wholesaler. No price yet, but if it's a special order it'll be a special price. Ebay: all overseas dealers. One NZ dealer online has it for $140 + $20 postage. Subaru "genuine" part was $230 each Not surprising really; I'm familiar with Subaru prices. Thought about taking them out of my car, but alas it is a later model....

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I've had the autotune pro for at least 3 years; I think it was January 2014, and Power Vision was a 2011 Christmas present.
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"Thought about taking them out of my car, but alas it is a later model.... "

How about an autowreckers? Just an idea mate.
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I work very closely with power vision, here's my 2 cents.. The target tune is pretty good but needs a good base line map to work off of.. Good thing is it can be used for wide band auto tuning first then set to run in target tune mode.. Downfall IMO is I hate modules that have to stay on the bike..anythibf that can Potentially leave me started I am not a fan of.. I would just use the target tune in wide band auto tune mode to collect data and tune the bike and then flash map and turn off module.. Cool thing about power vision is you can change the ways it used
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"Thought about taking them out of my car, but alas it is a later model.... "

How about an autowreckers? Just an idea mate.
Good thinking!!! Not sure I'd trust the longevity of a 2nd-hand set full-time, but that might make for a nice "interim/spare" set

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I work very closely with power vision, here's my 2 cents.. The target tune is pretty good but needs a good base line map to work off of.. Good thing is it can be used for wide band auto tuning first then set to run in target tune mode.. Downfall IMO is I hate modules that have to stay on the bike..anythibf that can Potentially leave me started I am not a fan of.. I would just use the target tune in wide band auto tune mode to collect data and tune the bike and then flash map and turn off module.. Cool thing about power vision is you can change the ways it used
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Thanks Mat! Essentially what you are suggesting is that you would just run Target Tune as an Autotune Pro module that I already have... or perhaps that Autotune Pro is a better tool... that's cool and I can appreciate that perspective. Having used the Autotune pro for a few years, I agree it is a powerful tool to have and certainly does everything I "need".

I have to admit though, that I DO like the idea of closed loop. I'd like it if my bike could adjust its short-term fuel trims to the conditions I'm riding within. Especially when I head up into the mountains away from the humid sea-level conditions I've tuned it within. Presently, I'm still in break-in mode, so a long way from having a finalised tune that I'd run the Target Tune from, but since I had to search for new O2s anyway, the topic / opportunity came up....

I agree I'd prefer not to need the piggy-back unit, but I run the autotune pro, so already have one, and so it is a concession I've been willing to make and would be willing to do full-time to have the "best of both worlds": closed loop adjustability with a richer than stoich fuel mix (and hopefully more reliability that some people seem to have with the Thundermax ECM).

My understanding is that if there is a problem with the unit that the bike automatically reverts to open loop and you run from the tune within the ECM; so you shouldn't be stranded by the Target Tune module per se. But perhaps your experience with Target Tune has found otherwise?? Certainly from my recent problems while auto-tuning, I agree that running in closed loop means that monitoring the accuracy of the O2 sensor feedback is something that should be done regularly.

Thanks for the input
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Oh ok I didn't realize you were already using the auto tune pro. Yea if you're changing elevations frequently the target tune is a good option.. Sensor calibration is an easy fix, if you contact dyno jet, they can sell you a bottle of test gas, which reads 13.1-2 on the sensors.. I haven't seen any problems with the TT as of yet.. Warm up was kinda funky on the first few installed..

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Sportytrace, Wow! Sounds like a great challenging life.
But I knew if we talked about it long enough a friendly expert would appear.
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Hi Michele! Awesome to hear from you. Hope all is well with you and the weather is letting you get back to riding.


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Oh ok I didn't realize you were already using the auto tune pro. Yea if you're changing elevations frequently the target tune is a good option.. Sensor calibration is an easy fix, if you contact dyno jet, they can sell you a bottle of test gas, which reads 13.1-2 on the sensors.. I haven't seen any problems with the TT as of yet.. Warm up was kinda funky on the first few installed..
Thanks Mat.... funky warmup in what way?
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Thanks Mat.... funky warmup in what way?
Just didn't idle right until the sensors were warmes up To operating temp.. I'm sure they have worked out the bugs in it by now.. That was last year so I'm sure it's been fixed

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