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22nd March 2023
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 8,953 Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton Sportster/Buell Year: 1962 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966 Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one) Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
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Normally on almost all gaskets I do not use adhesives at all , prefering to use good quality gaskets , installed dry , on clean , flat , true surfaces and always use a torque wrench.
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It's a bit slow and tedious but lapping in head and base gaskets eliminates just one more weak point on an engine. Two flat mated surfaces don't need any gaskets. Gaskets are there simply to allow for the imperfections left in the machining process.
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22nd March 2023
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Join Date: May 2009
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Posts: 127 Sportster/Buell Model: Former Sportster / Buell Sportster/Buell Year: many Sportster/Buell Model #2: Former Sportster / Buell Other Motorcycle Model: FXDLS Other Motorcycle Year: 2016
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Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
It's a bit slow and tedious but lapping in head and base gaskets eliminates just one more weak point on an engine. Two flat mated surfaces don't need any gaskets. Gaskets are there simply to allow for the imperfections left in the machining process.
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I bought an XR 1000 brand new I had it apart a couple of times , once to install the newly available screamin eagle high compression pistons and cams , then , later , it was apart a second time to freshen it up , rebuild the crank and add a windage tray . XR's don't use head gaskets or rocker box gaskets , the base gasket is a dainty delicate piece ....... like a cigarette paper cep't if you licked it , it would tear .
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22nd March 2023
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Never played with an XR1000. (Wouldn't run a place in Historic racing).
Did they have a "mini sump" like the ones developed for the XR750 ?
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22nd March 2023
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Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
Never played with an XR1000. (Wouldn't run a place in Historic racing).
Did they have a "mini sump" like the ones developed for the XR750 ?
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The sump on an XR 1000 is the same as all XL's from 77 & up .
Zippers sells a windage tray kit , they are easy to make so that's what I've done on a number of occasions .
The 78 crankcase on the bench in the background of this pic kinda shows the general shape of the 77 & up sump.

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22nd March 2023
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)K. Shows my ignorance. I've never played with anything later than 74. For a good part of my life I had no interest in bikes I couldn't race successfully.
So, do these engines have a pickup point at the bottom of the sump just like the XR750'S ? Must have I guess. An internal passage ? Never noticed any oil lines down there.
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22nd March 2023
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Join Date: May 2010
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Posts: 16,082 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH stroker Sportster/Buell Year: 1960 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 C Sportster/Buell Year #2: '03
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Originally Posted by Gearhead88
That Gaskacinch is for the head gaskets , I am using the supplied Cometic copper gaskets .
I work on lots of Shovelheads , often I use S&S copper head gaskets on those , S&S recommends using Gaskacinch on copper head gaskets .
Normally on almost all gaskets I do not use adhesives at all , prefering to use good quality gaskets , installed dry , on clean , flat , true surfaces and always use a torque wrench.
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thanks for sharing that.i've been using the copper gasket sealer with the copper particles in it for my copper head gaskets after the ex drag racer that ported and relocated the head bolt spacing in my XLR heads recommended it.forum member mrmom9r.
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23rd March 2023
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Originally Posted by Ferrous Head
)K. Shows my ignorance. I've never played with anything later than 74. For a good part of my life I had no interest in bikes I couldn't race successfully.
So, do these engines have a pickup point at the bottom of the sump just like the XR750'S ? Must have I guess. An internal passage ? Never noticed any oil lines down there.
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Yes there is a port that pulls oil out of there , 77 & up also had a pump upgrade , this is when the Gerotor pump appeared on Sportsters
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1st April 2023
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This week's update ......
I took care of the wrecked oil deflector ....... I made one .
The oil pump was in good shape , no issues with it so it is back on .
Cam gears in ........
Cam cover , cam followers and pushrods back on ....
I need some shims for the mainshaft ............ the trans can go back in for the final time once I get those .

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1st April 2023
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It looks fantastic! Been a great thread to follow. Thanks!
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1st April 2023
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Join Date: May 2010
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nice jop with the oil deflector.i like the pushrod tubes clips also.powder coat or paint on the cylinders?
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